9 hours ago
Due to the nature of this, I will predominantly focus on mechanics like rhyme and meter as well as padding.
I will mention that the title might be doing the opposite of what you wish
I assume you picked it to draw readers in but I feel it is doing the opposite.
L3, meter wrong and padding, could try "The technocrat optimists spew out their drool"
L1 - eliminate the 3 dots
L5 - don't need to force the ellision on business, the regular spelling works in a modern spelling
L6 - maybe pad out the meter "will say that the market will cure all affliction"
L8 - switch One with "The first" and don't need to force the ellision on over
L13 - you can just say CO2
L15 - 16 are doubles
L18 - extra syllabel, could fix by switching to "violent death"
you continue through the rest of the poem occasionally starting the line on the accent, I will stop noting it in the interest of expediancy
L26 - I have a tough time elliding over natural, could be just me
34 - inverted speach
37 - cut "But"
40 - some spheres have superior characteristics
41 - inversion
43 - inversion
44 - inversion
45 - "See? It's their output for which oftentimes,"
55. awkward demotion on "Big"
58 - Why yes but of course it is citizenry
Realizing how much further I have to go, going to limit the commentary and assume you understand
59 - But now we're so flabby we sit on our asses
60 - we give up too soon as everything passes
61 - inversion
62 - awkward demotion on "spews"
63 - why not pluralize rumors?
74 - said dictators will love it when people are split
77 - We know altruism isn't part of the game
85 - don't need to force the ellision
86 - We thought of ideals we'd die to defend
87 - We thought about death and we thought about birth
90 - dont think you need the plural on committee
93 - Its trivial crap that is really quite boring
95 - dont need to force the ellision
113 - Economists mention in prosaic journals
116 - Mind you the contrast of the CBC
122 - sp - "they're"
I gave up with not much more to go, perhaps I can return at some point.
First, let me say this isn't the type of critique we would normally give in this forum
Second - understand any suggestions I made were NOT intended to fix or rewrite your poem but rather to demonstrate what correct meter would look like.
This was actually much better than expected. Granted, it is in rhyming couplets and loaded with filler words and inversion.
My guess is, you are far more into political commentary or economics but you were bit by the bug and inspired to write this.
Well, you have a natural talent for rhyme and meter. your meter held up pretty good and it is a difficult meter to write in. Some of the rhymes were quite creative.
If you had the bug once, you may get it again, I say stick around, read a few poems and see if you want to try your hand aain.
Thanks
I will mention that the title might be doing the opposite of what you wish
I assume you picked it to draw readers in but I feel it is doing the opposite.
(Today, 02:58 AM)evanbedford_dot_com Wrote: OK, here goes. Footnotes # 9 and 10 refer to the yellow book thumbnail that can be reached via the site that is my user-name.so you have chosen what is essentially anapestic tetrameter as your predominant meter (some could argue it is amphibrachic but it won't matter for our purposes. This is a meter defined as dadaDUM dadaDUM dadaDUM dadaDUM . It is a good meter for a long diatribe as it helps the verse gallop along.
Dick Diddled Sue
I've written a poem...perhaps a bit long. 1
It speaks of a future when things go quite wrong. 2
Oh, I know technocrat optimists spewing out drool, 3
tell us "Don't worry! The future is cool!" 4
And laissez-faire bus'ness types spewing out fiction, 5
say that the market will cure all affliction.1 2 6
L3, meter wrong and padding, could try "The technocrat optimists spew out their drool"
L1 - eliminate the 3 dots
L5 - don't need to force the ellision on business, the regular spelling works in a modern spelling
L6 - maybe pad out the meter "will say that the market will cure all affliction"
Quote:1 Economists know that capitalism is generally the most efficient way to allocate resources. However, there are three areas where it absolutely fails. See poetic detour below.
2 The marketplace sometime's somewhat of a stale cure.
In economist's textbooks, there ARE "market failures".
Market failures conveniently group into three. 7
One includes fighting o'er fish in the sea. 8
It's the other two though, which should be understood. 9
One's "market externals", and one's "public goods". 10
But what about cod stocks and weapons at school? 11
And third world dictators who kill as they rule? 12
There’s cee-oh-two warming and frogs in decline, 13
and weapons-grade nuke-juice sales east of the Rhine. 14
There’s cee-oh-two warming and frogs in decline, 15
and weapons-grade nuke-juice sales east of the Rhine. 16
And the shit-load of guns and the crack and the meth? 17
Our homes ain’t immune from such violence and death. 18
L8 - switch One with "The first" and don't need to force the ellision on over
L13 - you can just say CO2
L15 - 16 are doubles
L18 - extra syllabel, could fix by switching to "violent death"
you continue through the rest of the poem occasionally starting the line on the accent, I will stop noting it in the interest of expediancy
Quote:Ebola and Aids and the H5N1. 19L25 - 3 extra feet and iambic, this is a pretty tough problem. The problem happens with sustainability - there is no way to anapest that. You could maybe try "Now the mock green agenda should be defined"
Will they mow us all down like Attila the Hun? 20
There’s AI gone rogue and we’re glued to our phones. 21
It’s a world only sick feckin eejits3 condone. 22
3 A delightful Irish colloquialism applying to such idiots as Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg.
Yes, we need answers. We need them quite soon. 23
'Cuz from stone cold extinction, we just ain't immune. 24
Now sustainability should be defined, 25
when looking at nat'ral and civil decline. 26
L26 - I have a tough time elliding over natural, could be just me
Quote:It means vigour and health in our grandchildren's time. 2730 could just skip the odd spelling and then remove the foothold
A vigour and health from a new paradigm. 28
A new paradigm that is really quite old. 29
de TOKE-ville4 described it, but now it's lost hold. 30
Quote:4 Alexis de Tocqueville, a French philosopher and sociologist from a few centuries ago.33 - As it stands now there is one in decline would fix it.
It's the balance of power twixt three social forces. 31
A balance of power that each one endorses. 32
As it stands now though, one's in decline. 33
I'll let you guess which, as each I define. 34
The first is the "Prince"...well, government really. 35
The one that, at times, has been spending too freely. 36
But for neat stuff like schooling and health and defence, 37
it is something with which we can never dispense. 38
34 - inverted speach
37 - cut "But"
Quote:It's true! It's true! It's not bolshevistic! 3939 - "It is true! It is True! It is not Bolshevistic"
Some sphere's just have public goods char'cteristics.5 40
5 Goods that are public can be misconstrued,
so to grasp the essentials, remember one clue.
It's their output! Yes, output! It's free to us each. 41
If anyone wants some, they just have to reach. 42
40 - some spheres have superior characteristics
41 - inversion
Quote:The perfect example in matters marine, 43
are lighthouses signalling hazards unseen. 44
See? It's their output! Yes, output!...for which oftentimes, 45
providers have trouble collecting a dime. 46
And if markets have trouble in selling the stuff, 47
there's no rationale for supplying enough. 48
The next social force is best known as the "merchant". 49
It trades where "invisible hand" is emergent. 50
43 - inversion
44 - inversion
45 - "See? It's their output for which oftentimes,"
Quote:But really there's two; there's "Big Merch" and "Small". 5151 But really there's two there's the big and the small
It's Small Merch we like. Big often appalls. 52
Big lays people off, while Small tends to hire. 53
Big often leaves town. Small stays in the shire. 54
And then there are times when Big kisses the Prince. 55
The Prince kisses back and the rest of us wince. 56
Have you guessed the third force in our so-sigh-eh-tee? 57
Why yes. But of course. It's SIT-i-zin-ree! 58
55. awkward demotion on "Big"
58 - Why yes but of course it is citizenry
Quote:But we're now very flabby. We sit on our ass. 59
We give up too soon. We just let it pass. 60
The problem is cultural. That I am sure. 61
The culture we're fed spews straight out of the sewer. 62
It portrays us consuming, with but little else. 63
It neglects us producing, for that never sells. 64
Thus even in civics, we're passive consumers. 65
Getting involved? That's just some old rumour. 66
Realizing how much further I have to go, going to limit the commentary and assume you understand
59 - But now we're so flabby we sit on our asses
60 - we give up too soon as everything passes
61 - inversion
62 - awkward demotion on "spews"
63 - why not pluralize rumors?
Quote:Once every few years, we go to the polls 67
and leave all the rest for elites to control. 68
Another great flaw in our cultural prism 69
is far, far too much individualism. 70
Freedom expressing oneself to the rest? 71
Oh no! I mean greed and beating one's chest! 72
Our buddy de TOKE-ville first saw it a bit. 73
Said dictators love it when people are split. 74
74 - said dictators will love it when people are split
Quote:We've been brought up on myths that economists claim. 7576 - We're raised on these myths and economists' claims
Like ALL-truism ain't part of the game. 76
But ask an ecologist if competition's 77
the only thing life-forms have as their ambition. 78
"Of course not!", she'll say, "There's co-op-er-AY-shun". 79
"Even Darwin acknowledged such qualifications".6 80
77 - We know altruism isn't part of the game
Quote:6 “I use this term [struggle for existence] in a large and metaphorical sense including dependence of one being on another..." (Origin of Species, 1859, pp. 62-63)83 - sp - holistic
There's another concern that has caused much frustration. 81
It's that culture has suffered so much fragmentation. 82
Culture at one time was fairly wholistic. 83
Our hopes and our dreams were much more realistic. 84
We thought about fam'ly. We thought about friends. 85
We thought of ideals that we'd die to defend. 86
We thought about death. We thought about birth. 87
We thought about life on this vast village earth. 88
But now that our earth is much more like a city, 89
our culture, it seems, issues forth from committees. 90
85 - don't need to force the ellision
86 - We thought of ideals we'd die to defend
87 - We thought about death and we thought about birth
90 - dont think you need the plural on committee
Quote:We know if some jock, to a million said "nope", 9191 - inversion
and if Dick diddled Sue on the afternoon soap. 92
It's trivial crap that is usually quite boring. 93
It's trivial crap that we should be ignoring. 94
But 500 channels are aw-f'lee compelling. 95
This, even with crises we should be out quelling. 96
Sure, there's the value of com-une-i-cay-shun, 97
but garbage transmissions bring mental castration. 98
Sure, there's a switch that we all can turn off. 99
If you think that's the answer, I'll jeer and I'll scoff. 100
93 - Its trivial crap that is really quite boring
95 - dont need to force the ellision
Quote:Let's be realistic. Let's use common sense. 101103 - Trudeau and Mulroney? Sure they did their part
Let's ask how our debt got so bloody immense. 102
Trudeau?7 Mulroney? Sure, they did their part. 103
But what of us peons? It's here you should start. 104
7 Referring to Pierre Trudeau, Prime Minister of Canada from 1968 to 1979 and again from 1980 to 1984. Both his government and later, Brian Mulroney’s were known for unsustainable deficits.
They frittered our billions, but what held our gaze? 105
Loud morons on game-shows in shameful displays. 106
Quote:And what about me? Did I protest at all? 107108 - no real way to fix in its current form. It is 2 feet too long.
Uh...well, no...but I did see Stallone in some ass-kicking brawls! 108
Thus citizens shackled by cultural junk 109
have all their potential so utterly shrunk. 110
This just will not do. We cannot survive 111
unless the grass-roots is enabled to thrive. 112
Economists mention in didactic journals 113
some curious stuff they call "market externals". 114
113 - Economists mention in prosaic journals
Quote:They're side effects really...not the main aim, 115115 - I would trim every ellipses out
yet still they can maim and inflame and cause shame. 116
The common example is industry's dirt 117
or my car, out of which sickly smoke thickly spurts. 118
But what of the dirt on the idiot box? 119
Shouldn't some writers be thrown in the stocks? 120
Mind you, there's the contrast of our CBC 121
...well...for certain their radio; that I'll agree.8 122
116 - Mind you the contrast of the CBC
122 - sp - "they're"
Quote:8 Check out my youtube video at https://youtu.be/IFybkViat-4 where I detail where CBC exhibits public goods characteristics and where it does not. My views on this have not changed since the 1990’s.
And yes; PBS. It uplifts and enables. 123
And grassroots control of community cable. 124
So in fact, there are two types of media ware. 125
Either buckets of crap or the good stuff that's rare. 126
The good stuff will often use taxpayer's cash, 127
while cess that is ceaseless shows ads full of flash. 128
And one can presume that the Hollywood hacks 129
at least pay some nominal burden of tax. 130
So the bad pays for good. A few bucks are collected. 131
Will that get cathodic corruption corrected? 132
Their market external's so bloody immense 133
that surely there should be much more recompense. 134
And their public goods assets? So bloody minute 135
that a skull full of grey matter quickly transmutes. 136
So how should we curb the worst sins of such stations 137
that speed the erosion of civilization? 138
…and the video games that pretend that it's fun 139
to go out and steal cars and shoot cops with a gun. 140
What we need is a magnet. Something to pull 141
the people away from the worst of the bull. 142
As for magnets, there's two that I much recommend. 143
If we give them a chance, then our sheep-walk will end. 144
One deals with culture and social reforms. 145
"It takes a village..." being one of the norms.9 146
9 Of course I’m referring to Communitarianism. But I suspect that you’re sick and tired of poetry by now. So, for more info, go to the previous chapter and look under the three headings labelled Citizenship, Economics and Individualism.
The other's political. Spreading control. 147
Jane and Joe Lunch-box will now have a roll. 148
But Jane and Joe Lunch-box with boosted IQ's, 149
discussing the critical things in the news.10 150
10 Of course I’m referring to Citizen’s Assemblies and Public Policy Juries and Civic Journalism. For more info on those subjects, go to the previous chapter and look under the five headings labelled Communication, Consensus, Democracy, Mass Media and Public Journalism.
OK…
…my poem is over. There’s no more to say, 151
except a brief wish that we turn out OK. 152
I gave up with not much more to go, perhaps I can return at some point.
First, let me say this isn't the type of critique we would normally give in this forum
Second - understand any suggestions I made were NOT intended to fix or rewrite your poem but rather to demonstrate what correct meter would look like.
This was actually much better than expected. Granted, it is in rhyming couplets and loaded with filler words and inversion.
My guess is, you are far more into political commentary or economics but you were bit by the bug and inspired to write this.
Well, you have a natural talent for rhyme and meter. your meter held up pretty good and it is a difficult meter to write in. Some of the rhymes were quite creative.
If you had the bug once, you may get it again, I say stick around, read a few poems and see if you want to try your hand aain.
Thanks


