05-31-2010, 02:10 PM
sorry guys but it's a contrived fallacy.
to explain;
we decriminalize heroin addicts. this means we don't prosecute an addict for having an amount deemed to be for personal use. in truth it means that addict often don't get booked or charged with the crime of possession. so yes of course the they can say the number of known users has gone down. of course drug usage rates have decreased, the reason is that they no longer have any kind of statistical data to show otherwise.
in reality what they're doing is the same thing magicians do. it's called the art of misdirection. they take away the crime and hide it with one hand, while the other hand is showing you it no longer exists.
the same with weed, grass etc. no records of offense = no crime statistics of substance, the only crimes are placed against those who sell. in Holland they'll tell you weed smokers are big business. (they can estimate the amount sold legally through coffee houses where it's sold. from this they can work out an approximation of how much is sold illegally. the population i think can grow up to 8 plants at a time (not sure exactly how many)each giving off a few ounces.
so yes if you decriminalize something of course you'll have less crime related to it. you'll even have less trafficking crime because once it's decriminalized trafficking becomes a murky area and some get away with it where as normally they wouldn't.
if drug related disease decreases ( by how much?)usually with heroin users, it's because decriminalization usually means more places where clean needles can be acquired free of charge for the addict. (no sharing needles means no spread of disease.)
in a nutshell it's a success because the crimes have been stricken from the law. it's no longer a crime thats contested.
what often happens now as well is many people go to hospital as an addict and don't get treated as an addict. they get treated as suicide or attempted suicides.
an added thought. decriminalizing dug abuse is no where near the same as legalizing it.
if legalizing it was such a good idea don't you think it would be legal to buy and sell heroin. why do you think trafficking is till illegal??????
to explain;
we decriminalize heroin addicts. this means we don't prosecute an addict for having an amount deemed to be for personal use. in truth it means that addict often don't get booked or charged with the crime of possession. so yes of course the they can say the number of known users has gone down. of course drug usage rates have decreased, the reason is that they no longer have any kind of statistical data to show otherwise.
in reality what they're doing is the same thing magicians do. it's called the art of misdirection. they take away the crime and hide it with one hand, while the other hand is showing you it no longer exists.
the same with weed, grass etc. no records of offense = no crime statistics of substance, the only crimes are placed against those who sell. in Holland they'll tell you weed smokers are big business. (they can estimate the amount sold legally through coffee houses where it's sold. from this they can work out an approximation of how much is sold illegally. the population i think can grow up to 8 plants at a time (not sure exactly how many)each giving off a few ounces.
so yes if you decriminalize something of course you'll have less crime related to it. you'll even have less trafficking crime because once it's decriminalized trafficking becomes a murky area and some get away with it where as normally they wouldn't.
if drug related disease decreases ( by how much?)usually with heroin users, it's because decriminalization usually means more places where clean needles can be acquired free of charge for the addict. (no sharing needles means no spread of disease.)
in a nutshell it's a success because the crimes have been stricken from the law. it's no longer a crime thats contested.
what often happens now as well is many people go to hospital as an addict and don't get treated as an addict. they get treated as suicide or attempted suicides.
an added thought. decriminalizing dug abuse is no where near the same as legalizing it.
if legalizing it was such a good idea don't you think it would be legal to buy and sell heroin. why do you think trafficking is till illegal??????