Russian exit
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(03-08-2022, 12:37 AM)ambrosial revelation Wrote:  
(03-04-2022, 06:04 AM)busker Wrote:  Like many Western companies, the one that I work for has exited Putin's Russia.
The list grows longer and longer.
This will hurt the Russian middle class. They will not like working for Chinese SOEs and Russian oligarchs, with foreign deputations limited to Shanghai and Dubai.

Putin is ensuring that Russia reverts to the Soviet Union quite properly
Come on man there's people dying. Fuck the Russian middle class, what about the Ukrainian working class, what about almost 2 million refugees. I'm sick of people boiling this down to economics as well as viewing it like a computer game where people are talking about tactics and shit. There are people dying man.

Sorry but this post has really boiled my piss today
I think you missed the point of the post.
Which was that the Russian middle class will feel the pinch. As they rightfully deserve.
But the reality is that it sort of ends there. You can impoverish Russia to an extent, but thanks to their 6,000 nukes, they can flatten Ukraine tomorrow with conventional bombs and there's nothing the west can do about it.

Ukraine can either surrender, rebuild, and play the long game, or continue to resist and become another Afghanistan. 
Putin will not last forever, and the sanctions will start to bite some years down the road. Most likely, this will lead to a regime change within Russia. That works out best for everyone concerned.

Reverting to a cold war type 'them vs us' alignment is the right thing for the west to do under the circumstances. An additional complication is imposed by China, which the west must address post haste (cut down trade with China, and rebuild supply chains closer to home).
That also means massively ramping up birth rates and military spending in Europe and the UK.
Welcome to the future.

And yes, there are people dying. But Ukraine needs to surrender for that to stop. The only saving grace of Putin is that, unlike Hitler, his agenda is not to wipe out the Ukrainians.
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Messages In This Thread
Russian exit - by busker - 03-04-2022, 06:04 AM
RE: Russian exit - by Tiger the Lion - 03-05-2022, 08:45 AM
RE: Russian exit - by RiverNotch - 03-05-2022, 10:22 AM
RE: Russian exit - by newsclippings - 09-01-2022, 03:16 PM
RE: Russian exit - by Magpie - 03-08-2022, 12:37 AM
RE: Russian exit - by busker - 03-08-2022, 08:55 AM
RE: Russian exit - by busker - 09-01-2022, 05:05 PM
RE: Russian exit - by dukealien - 09-01-2022, 10:33 PM
RE: Russian exit - by Xlateralus - 09-08-2022, 12:01 PM
RE: Russian exit - by Mark A Becker - 09-11-2022, 06:56 AM
RE: Russian exit - by busker - 09-11-2022, 09:46 AM
RE: Russian exit - by dukealien - 09-13-2022, 03:32 AM



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