[split] a discussion on origins sparked by "The Order of Things"
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How do you get from neurolinguistics to spirituality? It was already there, stuck in the concept box before you considered neurolinguistics, and remains stuck. Once you run through all the meanings and connotations of spirit, you look at whether you need a separate distinction. Does neurolinguistics patterning necessitate God? What about a brainstem? There seems to be a consensus that we have brains. Where do we get the idea of what the word consensus means? Where is the split between what the mind perceives and what the mind is perceiving? What is mind?
If I am a part of a pattern-perceiving continuum, human race, and taught to arrange thoughts and objects into word-concepts, then this programming of what I call me has been going on long before what is called birth. And where this idea of before, and where this idea of came from, and this idea of where? This idea of idea?

From that reasoning you fabricate, if fabricate can be used without anything to distinguish otherwise, the notion of a transcendence that transcends rational limitations. Transcendence is a concept within the so-called limitations. Once you've posited a transcendent God, you've set him right here where you are, within your own qualifications.
There is no difference between this God and you. There's no rationale for the necessity for mind. A difference of opinion and hallucination is a mild distinction. 

This is pragmatic. If there's a God that works better for you in a transcendent context, that God has that feature. What is necessary?

Are you making arrangements with your god? Are you using the theories of physics to make a practical invention? Or is it the exercise of thinking and discussing or arguing that furthers your cause? 
 
Maybe gods and physics and practical things work better the less you think about them. Maybe thinking about them is what obscures them.

That's all there is to it.

Everything you think about is created and given context as you think. Each time you think something it is created anew and the context may or may not be slightly or/and largely different. Everyone else is doing the same. And the consensus reality consists of thoughts and contexts coming in and out of existence in various largely and slightly modified ways, often simultaneously within one so-called individual mind.

This is why the concept of Understanding is depicted above the Abyss of Knowledge on the Tree of Life. And Wisdom even higher. And Wisdom is very slight in importance at that.
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RE: [split] a discussion on origins sparked by "The Order of Things" - by rowens - 02-17-2022, 06:42 AM
RE: The Order of Things - by Mark A Becker - 02-04-2022, 10:53 PM
RE: The Order of Things - by Torkelburger - 02-04-2022, 11:29 PM
RE: The Order of Things - by Mark A Becker - 02-05-2022, 12:39 AM
RE: The Order of Things - by Torkelburger - 02-05-2022, 12:59 AM
RE: The Order of Things - by Mark A Becker - 02-05-2022, 01:28 AM
RE: The Order of Things - by Torkelburger - 02-05-2022, 06:49 AM
RE: The Order of Things - by busker - 02-05-2022, 07:18 AM
RE: The Order of Things - by Mark A Becker - 02-05-2022, 07:45 AM
RE: The Order of Things - by Mark A Becker - 02-06-2022, 02:54 AM
RE: The Order of Things - by Mark A Becker - 02-07-2022, 12:54 AM
RE: The Order of Things - by busker - 02-07-2022, 03:58 AM
RE: The Order of Things - by Mark A Becker - 02-07-2022, 05:06 AM
RE: The Order of Things - by busker - 02-07-2022, 05:45 AM
RE: The Order of Things - by Mark A Becker - 02-07-2022, 06:45 AM
RE: The Order of Things - by Torkelburger - 02-08-2022, 06:39 AM
RE: The Order of Things - by busker - 02-08-2022, 07:48 AM
RE: The Order of Things - by Tiger the Lion - 02-08-2022, 08:11 AM
RE: The Order of Things - by Mark A Becker - 02-08-2022, 10:13 AM
RE: The Order of Things - by Torkelburger - 02-08-2022, 01:32 PM
RE: The Order of Things - by Mark A Becker - 02-08-2022, 11:29 PM
RE: The Order of Things - by Torkelburger - 02-08-2022, 11:39 PM
RE: The Order of Things - by Mark A Becker - 02-09-2022, 12:23 AM
RE: The Order of Things - by busker - 02-09-2022, 03:47 AM
RE: The Order of Things - by Tiger the Lion - 02-09-2022, 05:39 AM
RE: The Order of Things - by Torkelburger - 02-09-2022, 06:22 AM
RE: The Order of Things - by busker - 02-09-2022, 08:18 AM



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