02-04-2022, 09:51 AM
(Original thread can be found here. -- Quix)
A darned good question (why does the scientific, evidence-based [really, not rhetorically] sequence match Genesis). The woke, put to it, might argue that the science is bent in some way to support the ancient tale, or that white privilege is involved - Jews are white when the narrative requires them to be. The woke need some argument here because, you know, religion (other than Wicca and Satanism, which are fine).
In a way, I suspect the truth is not too far from that. People long ago discerned (perceived) that some features of their experience are too far away to affect (stars, tides) and some are not conversable (rocks, trees) while others seem so (fish, for example, at least react to being hooked). Dogs are company. Logic requires that ocean preceded fish, rock preceded ocean (which wears it away rather than vice versa) and stars/sun/light preceded all. Time is an ever-flowing stream, but flows in only one direction because we can't perceive where it goes beyond the misty falls of Present.
So, our senses organize the world in exactly the order in which it came to be... because our senses came last. If there was a plan, it was (as Genesis plainly states) moving toward the conversable (even Woman, whom even G_d must sometimes wish would shut up but is, be it noted, the very last creation as man is not).
Which, in a sort of drunken excursion, leads to a further almost Rowenesque observation: Man was meant to be God's wife*, but it didn't work out. Hmm.
*It is not good that man should be alone. God, either, apparently. But, God, I do love the solitude sometimes! Maybe that's why He's been playing dead lately.
A darned good question (why does the scientific, evidence-based [really, not rhetorically] sequence match Genesis). The woke, put to it, might argue that the science is bent in some way to support the ancient tale, or that white privilege is involved - Jews are white when the narrative requires them to be. The woke need some argument here because, you know, religion (other than Wicca and Satanism, which are fine).
In a way, I suspect the truth is not too far from that. People long ago discerned (perceived) that some features of their experience are too far away to affect (stars, tides) and some are not conversable (rocks, trees) while others seem so (fish, for example, at least react to being hooked). Dogs are company. Logic requires that ocean preceded fish, rock preceded ocean (which wears it away rather than vice versa) and stars/sun/light preceded all. Time is an ever-flowing stream, but flows in only one direction because we can't perceive where it goes beyond the misty falls of Present.
So, our senses organize the world in exactly the order in which it came to be... because our senses came last. If there was a plan, it was (as Genesis plainly states) moving toward the conversable (even Woman, whom even G_d must sometimes wish would shut up but is, be it noted, the very last creation as man is not).
Which, in a sort of drunken excursion, leads to a further almost Rowenesque observation: Man was meant to be God's wife*, but it didn't work out. Hmm.
*It is not good that man should be alone. God, either, apparently. But, God, I do love the solitude sometimes! Maybe that's why He's been playing dead lately.
Non-practicing atheist