Beauty, Love... Which one needs the other most?

[vagabond]

Love needs beauty more than beauty needs love.


A mother will always love their children, sure, but before there can be children there has to be attraction and that takes beauty. Even if that beauty is seen through 6-pack deep beer googles or lonely desperation.

On the other hand (the left one), there are plenty of hot whores hawking their fresh waxed vaginas on the internet for my personal pleasure. They are beautiful, but i don't love them. Beauty doesn't need love. And please don't bring up some bullshit about abstract beauty on the inside. As that's love, not beauty.

i think beauty always is internal, that is it´s created inside the perceiver. 
the different beauty ideals (that make up only a small part of beautiful things) on which humans agree are bred into us by instinct or learned in different societies. but that doesn´t matter.. from an individual point of view there is no definition of beauty.
and everything needs love even the whores on the internet.

The question isn't if everything needs love. The question is does beauty need love more. There is a definition of beauty. I saw it in a book once. 

so what is this definition? i always thought the number of definitions for beauty are infinite (in other words there is no definition)

The fact that beauty exists in different planes for me and you doesn't change the fact that is skin deep and external. Any other definition of beauty is a trick of the mind, an illusion of beauty where love is.

The fact that the mind creates beauty where love is only proves that love needs beauty. On the other hand (again, the left one) i've squeezed one out to many a beautiful lady. Unless your some delusional stalker rarely does beauty trick the mind into creating love. Beauty doesn't need love.

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Love needs beauty more than beauty needs love.


A mother will always love their children, sure, but before there can be children there has to be attraction and that takes beauty. Even if that beauty is seen through 6-pack deep beer googles or lonely desperation.

On the other hand (the left one), there are plenty of hot whores hawking their fresh waxed vaginas on the internet for my personal pleasure. They are beautiful, but i don't love them. Beauty doesn't need love. And please don't bring up some bullshit about abstract beauty on the inside. As that's love, not beauty.

i think beauty always is internal, that is it´s created inside the perceiver. 
the different beauty ideals (that make up only a small part of beautiful things) on which humans agree are bred into us by instinct or learned in different societies. but that doesn´t matter.. from an individual point of view there is no definition of beauty.
and everything needs love even the whores on the internet.

The 'beauty ideals' are not that different across societies....too much is made of variations at the extremes.
Women who are in the top quartile of beauty in Ethiopia, China, Lebanon, Sweden, and Brazil will be considered beautiful across all these cultures.
It comes down to facial proportions for the most part.

Beauty is neither a necessary nor sufficient precondition for love, as I've seen enough good looking men with ugly wives and vice versa, but it increases the probability of attraction, as for the most part, good looking people tend to fall in love with each other.
Sorry that evolution isn't politically correct.

no need to apologize for competition, i didn´t blame anything. but really, do you think the beautiful (in the way you interpret it) pairs are happier than the ugly ones as a rule? i do not think so. there´s so much more criteria than looks.