09-14-2017, 10:16 AM
(09-14-2017, 08:07 AM)rowens Wrote: Jesus didn't love everybody, he tried to and he failed. Christian thinkers often think of the crucifixion as some sort of victory. But there was a real failure involved. Jesus wept when someone died. He spoke to God as though he himself had been forsaken. The idea comes through sometimes as: Death on the cross equals everybody wins. Then again, that's a rationalization. A Christian view sees a victory, a Jew sees an absurdity. But altogether these things shine on the crucifixion. And that Jesus was right in loving everyone. Successes and failures are irrelevant. But Jesus was struggling through the ways of God, not the ways of mortal women. So he may have had it easier.death on the cross or in other words a sacrifice. that´s an good summary to say that some see it as victory, some as absurdity.
A human society is a realm, outside that realm you're in the badlands, in no man's land. And within human society there's a kind of broken symposium, where things are true and have merit as long as they're useful or understandable. I could make lots of people understand things that make no sense. And that has nothing to do with love. Love doesn't HAVE to do with anything. It doesn't have to do with anything, and in that way it's painful in a comforting way. And inside the realm of human society. So you also get to fight to sustain and protect it. Which is what people want. And what they need.
yes it can be both to die for one´s convictions (and i know i filled that interpretation in, it may not be what you meant).
not that you have to, but would you care to explain what the ways of mortal women are? (or did you just use that instead of "mortal men" which would be easier to be understood as including both genders?)
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