01-11-2010, 12:32 PM
it's only about poetry here, for me. i don't need to know you. but, i need to know if you're a poet or a poser. for my world, writing out how i should write the poem is exchange, the thing which makes us real. that's why i asked you for it specifically. i still need to know if you can't write it or if, instead, you're afraid of looking silly. my take on that is that you can't look as silly as my poem looks, since it's a failed poem... you understand? a real poetry workshop works to invent poetry together, not to invent ego.
(01-11-2010, 12:27 PM)billy Wrote:
i don't need you to tell me you don't think it's as good as it could be, i need you to show me the actual direction it's supposed to go to work for you. if you really get the poem, re-write it in your own voice. that's the honest and poet thing to do for another poet. but, remember, lots of people think poetry is just saying shit to say shit, and when they get to know what's what they read it for what it is. that's why i think this is too trippy -- that you're not finding the language i wrote this in.
i did mike. about a shitload of posts ago. i gave my take on it. how stanza 2 didn't work as well as it should for me and why.
one thing must be clear between writer and critic. they don't, can't know each other. you have no idea how i feel, what i think or how i think. i tell you, you don't cant tell me.
i can't write your poem. i can only tell you what i get from it. you can't tell me why i get or don't get something from it. you don't know me.
i can't tell you to re write. i can only tell you it's my opinion that you should re do certain aspects. (the one i pointed out)
if i don't get the language then the poems already alien to me and beyond hope to me the individual reader. i don't care if the whole world understand a part of it, and why it was done that way. i don't, i didn't i told you where and why. end of. change it or leave it but don't read my thoughts...you'll fail not only will you fail you'll fail implicitly. accept my comment as mine. not yours not everyone or anyone else, as i accept the poem is yours.
it's pointless me commenting on your poem and then you commenting on how my comment is wrong. it's my opinion leave it alone.
