(04-29-2010, 07:32 AM)SidewaysDan Wrote:i agree, it's why i say i don't think the source material is reliable. and as for proving anyone wrong, often a lie or a conspiracey theory can't be proven to be wring. they're set up that way.(04-29-2010, 06:28 AM)billy Wrote: thats why i mentioned the infowars guy. inuendo and gossip mongering and gobshite talk is where he makes his money. to him this is not only a personal imaginary conspiracy, he makes his money from spreading the shit.I agree that I do not trust the source. But it is what we have. And we can speculate only so far.
i mention it because his is the radio station the op sited his first with as source.
i'm attacking the source as unreliable bullshit.
it seems out of the whole of the media this nut job is someone the op expects us to believe because it's someone he believes.
Benny is entitled to his opinion and we are to ours. We can try to prove him wrong and vice-versa but we need reliable evidence.
I challenge anyone to find a good reliable source (ie a news website like Yahoo or the BBC) for what is mentioned in this article or something similar so that we can set some facts straight and continue this discussion.
it's starts out as;
so and so could be doing such and such, prove it's not so. how can one prove they;re not being blackmailed lmao.
so whilst source from info wars is all we have to say they are being blackmailed. i'll call that source tainted, stupid and irrelvant. if someone tells me it's what info wars said so it must be true, i'll point to more than one media channel that says its a dumpster site for rhetoric and conspiracy theories.
if as you say we get a reliable source, i may or may not change my opinion, whatever i won't change my opinion as to the source material already shown.
for me the real evidence on the birther thing is the fact he's the president.
the real evidence that everyone isn't blackmailed is the fact that it would be too hard a secret to keep.
the facts about those that be meeting for this or that is that they're supposed to meet. me you or anyone else aren't invited. we never will be.
but those that do meet have to meet. the captains of industry, banking, charity, even to some extent religion. people from all parties and creeds. they have to meet, if they didn't the government wouldn't be doing it's job.
and thats why i say the source we have and are being shown is tripe.
it makes out that what needs to happen doesn't need to happen, that these people don't need to meet.
and statements like, these three countries are connected is so ambiguous as to be laughable,
of course they're connected. we now live and work in a global age.
is iran making secret deals with china or the usa?
is iran making secret deals with Israel lmao.
and this is how it goes, you never get anything that has evidence, or reliable source. you get half truths. of course these three countries are connected, are they connected in a bond of elitism. no, and that an induendo infers that to be so i find ludicrous. and yes. please give some reasonable source to back the statement up.

