07-22-2016, 11:17 AM
(07-22-2016, 10:47 AM)shemthepenman Wrote: aha! you caught my drunk annoyed post that i immediately regretted and deleted. touché!
however, i am in a mischievous mood. so let's try for a rebuttal. it will have to be immanent because, quite frankly, i cannot remember the context [either of what you were saying or what i was arguing against]

Quote:if your thesis [again, can't remember] is the opposite assertion "an understood poem is one more fully enjoyed", then i suggest you look up the word empirical. both understanding and enjoyment are subjective states. if you can empirically observe either, then you are a wizard and teach me your secrets. however, if you mean that you have been told "i understood that poem, therefore i enjoyed it" [which i highly doubt], this is anecdotal evidence, at best. i have heard said, often, "i don't know what you just said, but i like it!" who wins?my imperical evidence for people preferring poems they understand is that easily understood poems are way more popular and pervasive in current culture than obtuse difficult ones #aintgottimeforthat
Quote: i suppose i just found some irony in you using a made up word to further your argument about meaning. i also recognise that actually i was being the pompous twat, again, why i deleted the comment.Google defines irregardless. I consider it a word, like ain't.
Quote:so, that's that. oh, and whoever said about their 'philosophy teacher' thing doesn't sound legit. i don't know any philosophy professors [and i know a fair few] who would say that. in fact, i think it's Descartes 101 to make that argument.
I can only tell you it happened... I don't guess he was a fan of Descartes.....