01-09-2010, 01:17 AM
(01-06-2010, 09:22 AM)billy Wrote: watched a ted talk the other night....
Yes.
Simply put, its the thought that counts. Or lack of thought on the 2nd robbers part. He tried to do bodily harm with total disregard to the well being of the apple carrying man. The fact is he tried to murder the man who got lucky with a Granny Smith apple in his pocket... That counts as "attempted murder"
(01-07-2010, 11:26 AM)addy Wrote:Exactly. A man does not have to be convicted to be a murderer. He would be a murderer that slipped through the cracksQuote:A man murders another man in cold blood and gets cought then convicted and sentanced to death. He is now a murder.
Another man murders 100 men in cold blood and is never cought. The murders are never discovered to be murders. The man lives out his life like any other and dies of old age. Is he a murder?
Yes. Definitely. Just because nobody knows it doesn't mean he isn't a murderer.
(01-06-2010, 03:09 PM)addy Wrote: For Billy's question:Hmmm
The second knifeman should get the same sentence as the first: attempted murder. The second's man victim wasn't hurt, but it wasn't from the knifeman's lack of trying. In a case like that, I feel intent is the bigger factor for consideration.
I guess to me a more problematic question is, suppose there were two shooting cases, one where the gunman succeeds in murdering his victim and another where the intended victim gets to a hospital and survives, why should the two gunmen's sentences be different? Why should the second murderer be "rewarded" just because he didn't succeed?
To Velvetfog:
To me, the gangster is guilty of manslaughter, strange as it may be. Stray bullet hit the other person, doesn't matter if the other person was suicidal. It's a bit like if you shoot a man who's dying of cancer and who's only got one day to live: doesn't absolve you of the act.
That's just my interpretation.
OK now you got me here after answering the last one..
The crook who shot killed the man, off with his head. (France had some style...)
The 2nd crook would be guilty of manslaughter (no possibility of parole) since a hi velocity projectile tends to maul and slaughter a human body as it passes thru. Or at the least attempted murder (parole possible in a decade, maybe)
