01-23-2016, 02:34 AM
"So why is this in novice?"
Novice refers to the level of critique, not the competence of the poem. In this case however, the original poem was very much a novice piece. I think Julius would concur with that assessment, however through three edits he vastly improved the poem. That is what working-shopping is about and what this site is about.
Not just for you aschueler (since you brought up the subject--sort of), but everybody has blind spots, we have them in our personality, in out behavior and our writing. By using other people's observations, if we are willing, we can greatly improve a poem (and hopefully become aware of and protect against our blind spots), even if an observer is not very astute, or otherwise trained in poetry critique. If nothing else, puzzlement by a reader goes to the idea of clarity and most anyone can point out misspelled words and other such errors.
Back to the original question: we have these levels of critique: mild-->novice-->serious, this is to allow the person to choose what intensity of critique they wish to receive. For all practical purposes the forums could be called easy-->moderate-->advanced. There was a reason behind the name of this forum, in that mild basically meant "newbi" as in ones first poem, or first months of writing poetry, then "Novice Poet and Critic" would be for those who were a bit more advanced than that. The mild forum and this one were also suppose to be the ones for people who had little experience giving critiques which is why, I suppose, the "Critic" label was added. While these are not optimal labels, they probably work as well as any other. I'm sure if you have a really good suggestion for new labels for these three forums that are consistent within themselves and also represent what they need to without being too long, Billy would be happy to consider it (Billy, he's the owner of the site and has final say in the decisions, although he is a benevolent dictator and often defers to others judgment). They (the three headers) certainly could be better, it's just that no one has come up with anything that doesn't have just as many flaws. As a member, I encourage you to make this site your own. If you see something that you think can be improved and having come up with what you think is a better solution please submit it. We always wish to make this site user friendly. The only thing I would suggest is that you think long and hard about whatever you might submit, keeping in mind that we constantly (we being the mods and admin) continually try to improve the site. There are also certain things about the site that are hardwired into the BBS that is being used and those things cannot be changed.
Best,
dale/mod
Novice refers to the level of critique, not the competence of the poem. In this case however, the original poem was very much a novice piece. I think Julius would concur with that assessment, however through three edits he vastly improved the poem. That is what working-shopping is about and what this site is about.
Not just for you aschueler (since you brought up the subject--sort of), but everybody has blind spots, we have them in our personality, in out behavior and our writing. By using other people's observations, if we are willing, we can greatly improve a poem (and hopefully become aware of and protect against our blind spots), even if an observer is not very astute, or otherwise trained in poetry critique. If nothing else, puzzlement by a reader goes to the idea of clarity and most anyone can point out misspelled words and other such errors.
Back to the original question: we have these levels of critique: mild-->novice-->serious, this is to allow the person to choose what intensity of critique they wish to receive. For all practical purposes the forums could be called easy-->moderate-->advanced. There was a reason behind the name of this forum, in that mild basically meant "newbi" as in ones first poem, or first months of writing poetry, then "Novice Poet and Critic" would be for those who were a bit more advanced than that. The mild forum and this one were also suppose to be the ones for people who had little experience giving critiques which is why, I suppose, the "Critic" label was added. While these are not optimal labels, they probably work as well as any other. I'm sure if you have a really good suggestion for new labels for these three forums that are consistent within themselves and also represent what they need to without being too long, Billy would be happy to consider it (Billy, he's the owner of the site and has final say in the decisions, although he is a benevolent dictator and often defers to others judgment). They (the three headers) certainly could be better, it's just that no one has come up with anything that doesn't have just as many flaws. As a member, I encourage you to make this site your own. If you see something that you think can be improved and having come up with what you think is a better solution please submit it. We always wish to make this site user friendly. The only thing I would suggest is that you think long and hard about whatever you might submit, keeping in mind that we constantly (we being the mods and admin) continually try to improve the site. There are also certain things about the site that are hardwired into the BBS that is being used and those things cannot be changed.
Best,
dale/mod
How long after picking up the brush, the first masterpiece?
The goal is not to obfuscate that which is clear, but make clear that which isn't.
The goal is not to obfuscate that which is clear, but make clear that which isn't.