09-22-2015, 09:40 PM
(09-22-2015, 04:47 PM)Weeded Wrote:The value of a poem isn't in its correct form, the form is just a tool. If the reader doesn't find something he wants to return to again and again then what does it matter if the form is technically correct? For me, learning forms only since I came here, it is difficult to do both at the same time, write a good poem in a form. It does happen every now and then and is slowly getting within reach. There are poets here who do so with regularity, the poem so engaging that you don't even realize until afterwards that a form has pulled it along.(09-22-2015, 04:21 PM)billy Wrote: while a line by line is common in serious it's doesn't have to be objective, it can be subjective, how does each line or phrase affect you personally, where and why doesn't it work for you in particular, why does it work for you in particular. both objective and subjective feedback helps the poet, for the critic is can either or both they give. i find i go more with the subjective point of view in my feedback. when we learn to drive we go on all the roads, not just on the avenue where our house is. we have to stretch in order to grow. that said i also try and be objective if it's not my style of poetry.This is true, but as a beginner I find myself holding my tongue more often than not still due to the fact I'd hate to praise a poem that isn't technically correct, and if you're writing in form it seems that should be the most important part? It would be like if I post something in iambic pentameter but it wasn't IP, wouldn't the technical aspect be the more important side to address? Would the poem still hold value if it wasn't true to form? Again this is only regarding Serious Workshopping.
I too am cautious about critting in Serious as I can not usually write at that level, but I really think the key here is devoting time to it. If you read a piece you like enough times it will start to sink in what about it apppeals you, and possibly a minor flaw. It's fine to post crit in serious that just explains in detail your own interaction with the poem, if you can explain your read it will surely help the OP, if only not to cut the line or word that moved people but no one bothered to mention.
All critique is valuable when the readers takes to time to get to know the poem and then honestly express themselves.
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