09-17-2015, 07:27 AM
(09-16-2015, 10:47 AM)71degrees Wrote: I heard she grew up to marryHowdy 71. Not sure of the reference for your name. Is it a standard for "room temperature?"
a short glass of white milk kind of guy,
but back then she was in my arms:
pink tulip skin, edible nipples
She would rub her curls against my neck,
slurp small beads of sweat from my nose
When words failed us,
we spoke only in vowels:
ahhh, you
ohhh, you
The Moody Blues had nothing
we never heard before
Anyway, I'm going to agree with Shem a little. I think this poem has a great ending with the Moody Blues reference, but as such, I think it wants to swing away from being pornographic. But the sighs in sex are what you are comparing to the Moody Blues, and we get the connection. I like the move from words to vowels to the Moody Blues. I mean, we can all hear "The Nights in white Satin," ringing at the end. The experience exceeds artistic rhapsody, and I think this poem wants to mark the limits of poetry and the inability of music to reach such heights, more than try to out-do the Moody Blues in talking about love and sex. As such, I think this poem has to walk a fine line. I think you want to maybe avoid the "edible" nipples, as it's slightly too sexual and overpowers the poem to some degree. This creates a problem.
You can be very plain-Jane physical, and just pick some less-gratuitous aspects of sex to mark (ie. the sweat). OR...
You can move toward being very poetic about euphemizing sex.
I think the second option moves toward trying to out-do The Moody Blues. So I think you have set up your poem to offer us the feeling correctly. We want to feel that art can approach, but not replace the experience --we want to feel the thinness of the canvas as it were. My advice is to just avoid the nipples entirely --nipples are too awesome, and I don't think you can succeed in underplaying them to keep the focus you have at the end. You might could get away with a more simple word like "breasts," but I still think it would be difficult. I mean there aren't a lot of images preceding the nipples, so they really stand out (pardon the double entendre). I think if you want to try to keep them, you might have to wedge them in with some other strong or otherwise competitive images --which might work. A little more physicality to set a sort of high mark that British Rock, for all its energy and innovation, still can't reach.
I get the "eww" that Shem gives you over the "slurping sweat." Musically it's great diction, so you almost get away with it, but I think "slurping" is like you maybe had some extra soda straws in bed, and you're sweating buckets. Now the image, itself, I think it hits the mark. Kissing all over while being sweaty. That works for me. Again, it's such a fine line. Anyway, I think Shem and I parts ways over The Moody Blues. I'm happy admitting that this is a poem aimed at an audience who have listened to and appreciate The Moody Blues. I think that's fine for the poet to aim at a potentially esoteric reference. It took me several years to bump into Sylvia Plath's reference to "the Greek necessity" in her Poem, "Edge." I found it in Plato's Socrates. I get that my education is sort of catching up to what Sylvia's was at the time she wrote it, and I'm happy to admit my ignorance because I know that she's in control, and she's pointing me toward other works. She's raising the bar. I think The Moody Blues is a fine reference as you have it, and I think that their passion, their musicality, and their many vowels are, indeed, iconic. It fits fine. I think you can just take the high ground here and tell everyone else that they'll just have to listen to The Moody Blues to understand.
Interesting subject, and a fun read. Thanks!

