01-14-2015, 03:48 AM
(01-12-2015, 08:00 PM)Erthona Wrote: Personally I think she has you by the nads. It must kill you that she is a Christian, but at the same time you know that by being one it reduces her chance for promiscuity. However I agree with her, not that there is a god, but that he can do both. One time I was in a certain state of mind (surprisingly not drug induced), and as a result of that I had complete clarity about what the image in Ezekiel's "The Vision of the Four Wheels," meant. I could see how it could move the way he described, even though it contradicted our physical laws. I was able to hold on to it for a few days but then it began to fade. Although I cannot recall it now, I know it was genuine and valid knowledge but it could not be explained by the use of our reasoning ability as that faculty is limited in this world. I think everyone has had dreams that seem more real than our everyday waking reality. As we do not know what to do with it/them, we simply ignore them. These are toe tips into these other worlds, for lack of a better term. You can believe it or not, and I cannot prove it in terms of the limited rules and rationality that apply to "our" reality, but there are other realities that do not play by our rules. Anyway the point of this was that maybe you can give your daughter a little room to enjoy the reality she sees before our reality imposes itself on her and her view of reality becomes frozen like us wiser people(:Yep, she got me by the Monads
dale
I had an epiphany, just the regular kind.
Hurriedly, I took a pen and wrote it down
gave it to everyone I knew
and they all agreed,
it was really quite profound.
I guess I must agree with them.
Profound: I admit it does seem.
Especially now that time has passed,
and I can’t recall
what any of it means.
–Erthona
©2005 Dale B. Tisdale
Oh yeah, I will try to watch that film.


With regards to agreeing, I really love this answer of 'yes, he can do both', minus the He, business. And I didn't mean to sound flippant about her response, because I for sure love those breaks with human reason and logic (or possibly even social reason and logic). But there are two points at which I worry, 1) that reason and logic are abandoned without understanding (as an analogy, the poet that attempts to break the rules of poetry without knowing the rules of poetry. This may seem like a false analogy, but if one doesn't understand why the God/Rock paradox is a paradox then it is hard to get past that). 2) Because this kind of thinking is directed at some non-experience. I will say no more about this second point only to direct anyone who hasn't to read Deleuze's book on Nietzsche.
and again, you are right about this 'allowing your daughter to enjoy...' I only wish she would start
creating her own reality, is all.
Oh, and yes, as you said there is one upside to the christian thing, chastity

is also a church going christian, so thank Darwin for small miracles.