01-06-2015, 05:39 AM
(01-06-2015, 04:44 AM)rayheinrich Wrote:I will be replacing the 'till' that I just used in a poem draft with 'til' to go with the flow then. Thanks Ray and Milo!(01-06-2015, 12:22 AM)ChristopherSea Wrote:(01-02-2015, 04:58 AM)milo Wrote:
probably true, but I like to follow the contraction conventions set by can't, don't and won't.
I think I read a line in someone's poem once that was something like:
the man worked till the earth was raw
which made me think
"till the earth was raw" - that is terrible grammar
when he meant "'til the earth was raw"
I think you can see the difficulty of my situation.
Milo, I know you don't like Merriam-Webster's authority, but till, til and 'til are all acceptable contractions of until.
To be clearer: Milo wasn't saying they weren't acceptable to an appreciable segment of
the great unwashed, he was expressing his own personal preferences (and ones that,
possessing superior linguistic sensibilities as well, I agree with).
But, as one possessing superior linguistic sensibilities, I can't help but point out that " till " is not
a contraction of "until". " Till* " is its very own word, predates "until" by a few hundred years, and is
quite probably the word from which "until" descended.
As sincere as ever,
Ray
*And, as I've said previously:
And as for 'till', yes, I try to avoid homonyms as they add confusion and
lend themselves too easily to doggerel:
He'll till the earth, his plow the devil's claw;
He'll till the earth, he'll till it till it's raw.
He'll till the earth, he'll till it to its core;
He'll till the earth till it will till no more.
My new watercolor: 'Nightmare After Christmas'/Chris