Blair’s fight to keep his oil cash secret
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(03-27-2010, 03:13 AM)SidewaysDan Wrote:  
(03-26-2010, 06:33 PM)Benny2guns Wrote:  
(03-26-2010, 05:32 PM)billy Wrote:  while some wars are fought over money. the 2nd world war wasn't
it was started because of hatered. money was just a side issue. it was started because hitler and his pals though the arryan race were superior beings. it's easy to equate war with money but more often war is about control. (not of the wealth) of the person; you will do this, you won't do that etc. war was and still is often a product of religious belief.

i still giggle when i see that the usa went to war for the iraq oil, and so they could make money.

war is sometetimes used to effect an outcome outside the war zone. and yes, i think the falklands was one such war. it was never about money. the falklands was about keeping the conservatives in power.

the same with iraq, the main reason was never money. in fact that war put the world into a downward spiral financially. that war was also about keeping the sitting gov in power.

yes, you'll all tell me they made money from waepon sales and other bullshit.

the iraq qar bankrupted the usa.
Thats your opinion and not really fact as far as it not being about money goes. It most certainly was fought over money and every other war along with it. Thats mine. You use the word money again like it is really something of value. It is not but a paper that represents someones debt. Iraq certainly was fought for gain by all the players involved. If there were none it would not have happened. The Iraq war made the people that control the currency of the USA a fortune and thats a fact.

Money is value. Whether you accept it or not. The financial world won't change like that just because you think money is worthless. Nowadays you can't even see money. It's just electronic power. And whatever you do, you cannot change a financial means; be it labour,notes, numbers on a screen, coins. Everything has a value.
Value as in What Dan? I have a wooden box and I want value for it. What is it's value Dan?
I contened that it's value is One wooden box.
I went into the woods and chopped down a tree that took me 4 hours by the time I got it home.
I then sawed up the tree into rough planks with a portable band saw for cutting up trees.
I then put the rough boards in a kiln to dry it.
I then resawed the lumber into workable board sizes after throwing away the bad twisted stuff.
I then ran the boards through a jointer to make one side straight.
I then ran the boards through a plainer to make them smooth.
I then ran the boards through a table saw to make all the same size boards.
I then had enough lumber to build my box with Dan!!
I then built my box Dan. Lets say it took me 24 hours from forest to box Dan.
Now lets skip over the fuel and tools Dan because they involve the same type of value
So Dan the wood to build my box is now worth exactly the amount of time it took one man to retrive it and dress it...are you with me so far?
My time ( labour) is not worth any more or any less than your time ( labour ) is Dan.
We all have about the same life expectancy for the sake of argument.
So you grow patatoes and I need potatoes. Lets say you have it figured out that over the run of a season you averaged 100 pounds of patatoes per hour for your labour Dan.
You need a box to put your patatoes in and I need patatoes
According to our labour I give you my box and you give me 2400 pounds of your patatoes.
Well Dan I do not need 2400 pounds of patatoes lol as I might go through 400 pounds a year but you still need the box.
Well Dan I'll give you the Box and you give me enough IOU's worth 10 pounds of patatoes each to cover the 2400 pounds of patatoes you owe me for the fair trade on the box. We are both happy campers.
Except now I have 240 of Your IOU'S worth 10 pounds of patatoes each that I can now trade with someone else for something else that I need to survive.
Paper money is in fact an IOU Dan. It represents our debt of labour to someone else. Wether it is electronic or paper matters not one bit of difference.
What we have now as a monitary system is a group of people that print paper money or electronicaly transfer the same and charge interest for doing it. The interest is payed in labour make no mistake about it this is how it works. Every time you make a transaction for a burger and fries with paper money or a plastic bank card or a credit card you are useing an IOU with interest attached to it. No matter what you like to call it, it is all debt.
My explanation is a bit short but this is the truth Dan. I know you don't like it but don't shoot the messenger man.
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Messages In This Thread
Blair’s fight to keep his oil cash secret - by Benny2guns - 03-24-2010, 10:25 PM
RE: Blair’s fight to keep his oil cash secret - by mrmod - 03-25-2010, 04:32 AM
RE: Blair’s fight to keep his oil cash secret - by mrmod - 03-26-2010, 03:33 AM
RE: Blair’s fight to keep his oil cash secret - by Benny2guns - 03-26-2010, 05:19 AM
RE: Blair’s fight to keep his oil cash secret - by mrmod - 03-26-2010, 07:03 AM
RE: Blair’s fight to keep his oil cash secret - by Benny2guns - 03-26-2010, 08:22 AM
RE: Blair’s fight to keep his oil cash secret - by mrmod - 03-26-2010, 08:34 AM
RE: Blair’s fight to keep his oil cash secret - by Benny2guns - 03-26-2010, 08:47 AM
RE: Blair’s fight to keep his oil cash secret - by Benny2guns - 03-26-2010, 11:05 AM
RE: Blair’s fight to keep his oil cash secret - by Benny2guns - 03-26-2010, 06:33 PM
RE: Blair’s fight to keep his oil cash secret - by mrmod - 03-27-2010, 03:13 AM
RE: Blair’s fight to keep his oil cash secret - by Benny2guns - 03-27-2010, 05:13 AM
RE: Blair’s fight to keep his oil cash secret - by mrmod - 03-27-2010, 10:33 AM
RE: Blair’s fight to keep his oil cash secret - by Benny2guns - 03-27-2010, 10:49 AM



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