03-26-2014, 05:51 AM
Thanks for the feedback Christopher.
About the 3rd section.
Dog dong - is partly a device to break the iambic, but is also a way of not using fuck - to represent the course nature of the fishermen - which would be wrong culturally and historically.
Looking at stuff about crucifixion, I was struck by the number of depictions not of a cross but a post, onto which the person was hung by a single nail through the hands (creating what I poetically term - the flame shape of the candle with the arms) and then impaled - impaling was apparently done to speed death, and to lessen the pain due to blood loss. And the 'inauspicious tree' was the name given to post/frame.... and the nail was apparently ground down and used in medicine - hence why the doctor and the tax collector want it - the doctor to use, the tax collector to sell. And the crow is there because it was common practice to leave the body exposed as a warning.... crucifixion being a punishment reserved for the lower, and particularly slave classes, as a way of keeping them in line - but also because of it's mythological iconic status.
The grand arching metaphor - is slightly more problematic to answer because there are a number of threads being spun...
a) this has nothing to do with the bible and this is a representation of a day. Between roughly 300BC and @100AD... possibly later, though the definition of the clothing limits this somewhat.
b) it is an allegory of Johanite heresies/traditions
c) if you take the baptism as being a Greek/Roman/Egyptian/Persian mystery cult, the allegory becomes about the early church/the Jesus Cult
d) there are elements of Simon Magus, and various apostolic/apostate traditions reacting with these three main strands
When writing the poem I have tried to play out these layers/strands, and deliberately not made choices, as to which strand dominates.
Which is perhaps not the answer you were looking for.
About the 3rd section.
Dog dong - is partly a device to break the iambic, but is also a way of not using fuck - to represent the course nature of the fishermen - which would be wrong culturally and historically.
Looking at stuff about crucifixion, I was struck by the number of depictions not of a cross but a post, onto which the person was hung by a single nail through the hands (creating what I poetically term - the flame shape of the candle with the arms) and then impaled - impaling was apparently done to speed death, and to lessen the pain due to blood loss. And the 'inauspicious tree' was the name given to post/frame.... and the nail was apparently ground down and used in medicine - hence why the doctor and the tax collector want it - the doctor to use, the tax collector to sell. And the crow is there because it was common practice to leave the body exposed as a warning.... crucifixion being a punishment reserved for the lower, and particularly slave classes, as a way of keeping them in line - but also because of it's mythological iconic status.
The grand arching metaphor - is slightly more problematic to answer because there are a number of threads being spun...
a) this has nothing to do with the bible and this is a representation of a day. Between roughly 300BC and @100AD... possibly later, though the definition of the clothing limits this somewhat.
b) it is an allegory of Johanite heresies/traditions
c) if you take the baptism as being a Greek/Roman/Egyptian/Persian mystery cult, the allegory becomes about the early church/the Jesus Cult
d) there are elements of Simon Magus, and various apostolic/apostate traditions reacting with these three main strands
When writing the poem I have tried to play out these layers/strands, and deliberately not made choices, as to which strand dominates.
Which is perhaps not the answer you were looking for.