Venus Project

[billy]

so what happens if i decide i don't want to work for a week or a month?
does this mean i can't own anything?
how do i get something i don't have if i can't build it and wont work?

because if i have to work to get something then it stops being the utopia of
a resourced based economy and becomes just another ism. no one has a better house than anyone else, we can't have any fashion except what we create for ourselves. we basically have to wear what we're given to wear. and eat what we#re given to eat. a quota? sorry but utopia it doesn't seem to be. in fact the devide between the aves and the have nots would be much wider. who would enforce the rules.?

a concept thats impossible to have.

everyone realizes that with a concept like that, healthcare would be free for everyone ? there would be no government as such, just enforcers of equalioty (that would really be a joke ) who would enforce the enforcers? there would be no prisons. because once you start punishing people for crimes against whatever the sytem collapses. nice in an hg wells movie but way way to far from being functional.

even communisn wasn't that bad.

Yes all those thoughts cover all the ones that I had the first time I read about this. Well prolly the second time actually. So then out of curiosity I decided to follow up and try to find out. What I found is that they have answers for pretty much all of the questios that I asked and they actually made sense. Go figure. Anyway bill I could copy past all the info here but thats crazy man so why not follow the supplied links and get the answers to your questions.
These people are actually trying to do something and not just talking about it. Far as I can tell the project is around 50 years so far in the makeing and not just some new scheme. So fill your boots or don't.
I've been a simi involved member for a number of years and to compare them to anything in you political vocb., is impossible. Communism would be a poor compression.
Anyway if you follow the links your questions are answered.

on a small scale with people being involved all pulling in the same direction i suppose it could work i've been in one such scene, they called it a kibutz but you only get out what you put into it and you have to basically work so thers can benifit. doesn't matter how you cut the custard and exchange of labour at the very least takes place. once people stop working for others the schems can only fail.

i'd also bet my life on them not being able to supply everything to veryone who wants it. a car, house, clothing education (especially healthcare) and a host of everything else.

just saw the image they had as their banner. and i have to ask who built it/them or who would. how many people would it take to build those botas and building in the sea and how would all the world beable to use them?

it's a nice dream but a reality? i can't see it ever being so.

it also quoted manpower being used to build all the extra planes in ww 2 as if they never got paid for it. i take it th epeople who built the boats got feed etc. if so thats barter. the simple equation of no one works then nothing gets done proves that barter has to take place for things to happen.