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(11-01-2013, 02:32 AM)SirBrendan Wrote:  As a former street punk, I think it a little curious that you group nazi skins with the rest, but okay.
It's interesting that you saw the skins as Nazis without that detail in the poem. I wondered if most would when I wrote it. That's why I chose purity as their cause. I'm in Miami, I've met antifacist skins, straight edge skins, skins that just care about music, and very few actual Nazis until you head north towards the south (potential poem about florida no?). All of them seem so militant to me, more idealistic than most, so I was very comfortable with combining them as purists. Interested in hearing more thoughts on that, especially as it would relate to those lines.

(11-01-2013, 02:32 AM)SirBrendan Wrote:  "With the flip of a switch they’ll put out the fire fueled by electricity"
You broke your line structure here. I appreciate it's an important line for you, but I think it's important for the poem that you trim it down to flow better.
(11-01-2013, 04:41 AM)demuzzled Wrote:  With the flip of a switch they’ll put out the fire fueled by electricity
--the last line--structure and visually may read better if another line was made starting with They'll. Interesting views and thoughts pointed out here! Curious to know if you got any feedback from passing it out?
I felt really good about the way the lines kind of grow with the poem. 3, 4, 4, 4, etc. and finally 5. So I worked on shortening that line:

With the flip of a switch they’ll put out the fire fueled by electricity
They switch off the fire doused by electricity
Out goes the fire switched off by electricity
Switch off the fire water charged electrically
Dousing the fire with water charged electrically

(11-01-2013, 02:32 AM)SirBrendan Wrote:  Lose the 'because', as you never finished the thought. Although poetry doesn't need complete sentences, it does require that if you use a conjunction you use the conjunction.
I would also reconsider the word non-conformity. For counter-culture, it's such a cliche term that it immediately raises hackles amongst most readers who have ever danced with the alternative lifestyles. In poetry, where each word is entirely purposeful, avoid any words that cause the reader to reject you or the poem.
Because is gone, you're absolutely right!

Do you feel like abnormality would be more inviting?
It also made me think to adjust the line to talk more about the place

We gather here tonight
in booze and smoke and dirt
This nest breeds abnormality
The independent humanity

...makes that last line feel so awkward. I'm thinking I'll try to make this part about the nest and what it's made of using that first line, which is redundant anyways.

Thanks so much. I'm very happy to find this forum. I've already gotten more feedback here than when I passed it out. I intended to have it read from stage before our set. Maybe I will one day. By someone more charismatic.
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Here - by Blunt - 11-01-2013, 12:54 AM
RE: Here - by SirBrendan - 11-01-2013, 02:32 AM
RE: Here - by demuzzled - 11-01-2013, 04:41 AM
RE: Here - by Blunt - 11-01-2013, 05:19 AM



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