10-05-2013, 07:14 AM
Ray said, "HA HA: Blake, et al"
Something I've rarely said, "Good point Ray!"
Personally I have no problem with "original" artwork being integrated with a poem, a la Blake, I do have a problem with people "enhancing their poetry with artwork of others, as is so often done on All Poetry.com.
Apophrades said:
"Interesting that when everyone is calling you shit, the only voice of ENCOURAGEMENT is your 'muse,' (the fact that you just have to put something down, no matter what anyone says) the only motivation to keep going is one of encouragement, not useless insulting."
Maybe if you were not in such a hurry to make a point you might have realized I said "the Muse", not "my muse", or maybe you don't recognize what that distinction means, if so then I understand why you argue as you do. The ego gets in the way of the creative energy, the ego is what gets it's feelings hurt, the ego is what gets offended. Reducing the ego is of primary importance to the poet as it is the main obstacle to inspiration. Without inspiration (the Muse), one will never go beyond the small and limited area of knowledge and insight one knows as an individual. As we grow, if we fail to reduce the ego, we will conversely reduce inspiration. Reducing the ego in no way causes us to lose our individuality, in fact it makes us more who we are not less. This is the maturation process that all humans need go through, although non-poets have the choice to choose not to mature. In the larger scope of things encouragement and praise are generally the enemies of the poet, a poet can neither stand to be distracted by such , or worse become externally referent-ed. This is not to give carte blanche for people to act unkindly, however in the final analysis the intent of such people hold no significance as far as the growth of the poet.
Dale
Something I've rarely said, "Good point Ray!"
Personally I have no problem with "original" artwork being integrated with a poem, a la Blake, I do have a problem with people "enhancing their poetry with artwork of others, as is so often done on All Poetry.com.
Apophrades said:
"Interesting that when everyone is calling you shit, the only voice of ENCOURAGEMENT is your 'muse,' (the fact that you just have to put something down, no matter what anyone says) the only motivation to keep going is one of encouragement, not useless insulting."
Maybe if you were not in such a hurry to make a point you might have realized I said "the Muse", not "my muse", or maybe you don't recognize what that distinction means, if so then I understand why you argue as you do. The ego gets in the way of the creative energy, the ego is what gets it's feelings hurt, the ego is what gets offended. Reducing the ego is of primary importance to the poet as it is the main obstacle to inspiration. Without inspiration (the Muse), one will never go beyond the small and limited area of knowledge and insight one knows as an individual. As we grow, if we fail to reduce the ego, we will conversely reduce inspiration. Reducing the ego in no way causes us to lose our individuality, in fact it makes us more who we are not less. This is the maturation process that all humans need go through, although non-poets have the choice to choose not to mature. In the larger scope of things encouragement and praise are generally the enemies of the poet, a poet can neither stand to be distracted by such , or worse become externally referent-ed. This is not to give carte blanche for people to act unkindly, however in the final analysis the intent of such people hold no significance as far as the growth of the poet.
Dale
How long after picking up the brush, the first masterpiece?
The goal is not to obfuscate that which is clear, but make clear that which isn't.
The goal is not to obfuscate that which is clear, but make clear that which isn't.