a point arose about this is not poetry

[milo]

I think folks can get the same messege from a 'counciler' as they would from a 'drill sargent', some of you folks are splitting hairs and your pants here.

I don't think either make good commenters on poetry - both have an investment. Good comments should be as objective as possible. As if you never met the poet and never will. Only the writing should be commented on. And writing will never mind or wilt like the fragile flowers of poets' egos.