10-05-2013, 12:01 AM
(10-04-2013, 09:52 PM)Apophrades Wrote: I guess teacher implies a position of authority, wrong word maybe. "Advice-giver" i dont know. I agree, workshopping here at least is more a peer study group situation, I guess by teacher/student I just meant exchange of ideas.I agree with everything...but don't criticise my shit. It's all mine, I tell you....all mine!
@milo it is contradictory that you say that and this:"Everything I write is what I think, what is the point qualifying what should be obvious?" unless im taking it out of context, how "separate" can your own ideas be. I guess by separate you mean, to not fret when someone calls your poem shit.
people learn how to do things right either by observation or someone telling them how. telling someone their poem is shit doesnt teach them HOW to do things right, all it does is tell them that what they're doing is wrong. there is a weak correlation. even if you think out of all the possibilities that telling someone their poem is shit will lead to them having an epiphany, and then being motivated to do better, you can still learn how to do things right without anyone ever telling you your work is shit.
"I don't expect my clothes or my hair to be able to go and mingle"
can we agree that language, clothing and our appearance are all sign systems. in that sense then, poetry is no more "alive" no more separate or independent than clothing or our hair, which both convey meaning to others/has ability to provoke emotion/thought
....and the next person who says my shit is like poetry will eat poetry!
And ain't that the truth...even if someone posts shit, it's THEIR shit and sometimes they are mighty proud of it...but then you really have to question the motive for posting it...and I haven't started on that one yet! Good 'ere, innit?
Tectak.