10-04-2013, 09:52 PM
I guess teacher implies a position of authority, wrong word maybe. "Advice-giver" i dont know. I agree, workshopping here at least is more a peer study group situation, I guess by teacher/student I just meant exchange of ideas.
@milo it is contradictory that you say that and this:"Everything I write is what I think, what is the point qualifying what should be obvious?" unless im taking it out of context, how "separate" can your own ideas be. I guess by separate you mean, to not fret when someone calls your poem shit.
people learn how to do things right either by observation or someone telling them how. telling someone their poem is shit doesnt teach them HOW to do things right, all it does is tell them that what they're doing is wrong. there is a weak correlation. even if you think out of all the possibilities that telling someone their poem is shit will lead to them having an epiphany, and then being motivated to do better, you can still learn how to do things right without anyone ever telling you your work is shit.
"I don't expect my clothes or my hair to be able to go and mingle"
can we agree that language, clothing and our appearance are all sign systems. in that sense then, poetry is no more "alive" no more separate or independent than clothing or our hair, which both convey meaning to others/has ability to provoke emotion/thought
@milo it is contradictory that you say that and this:"Everything I write is what I think, what is the point qualifying what should be obvious?" unless im taking it out of context, how "separate" can your own ideas be. I guess by separate you mean, to not fret when someone calls your poem shit.
people learn how to do things right either by observation or someone telling them how. telling someone their poem is shit doesnt teach them HOW to do things right, all it does is tell them that what they're doing is wrong. there is a weak correlation. even if you think out of all the possibilities that telling someone their poem is shit will lead to them having an epiphany, and then being motivated to do better, you can still learn how to do things right without anyone ever telling you your work is shit.
"I don't expect my clothes or my hair to be able to go and mingle"
can we agree that language, clothing and our appearance are all sign systems. in that sense then, poetry is no more "alive" no more separate or independent than clothing or our hair, which both convey meaning to others/has ability to provoke emotion/thought