Simon in the Land of Chalk Outlines (Revision 3)

[milo]

"It's usually sour grapes for those that despise the Villanelle. If you can't write one, you hate them."

Or it could be that the Villanelle is just a poor form for English, it is after all a French form.

Using your logic: I hate shit. Therefore my hate is due to jealousy because I am unable to create shit.

Maybe you should take a class in logical argument.


Dale

Most of the forms are from other languages. Probably not a great argument that they are no good just because they were founded in another language. I sure would hate to see this logic assigned to sonnets(!)

Anyway, i would probably hate it even worse if we used Todd's poem thread to debate the point.

For the poem -

I remember the original thread, it was probably my third post on this forum. Since then I have experimented with quite a few villanelles in a-symmetrical meters and I wonder if this one wouldn't work better as 4-3-4. It would be tough to tell at this time as you did stray away from meter in a couple places, i am going to return soon with my line by line suggestions.

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OOoo cat fight between Lions! When did I go to poetry school...man that was like, 25 years ago. I guess it's just personal opinion that I despise "form" poetry. I'm a rebel! I was born in the 60's after all. Todd, apologies for the thread hijack, I think it's been my fault. I wonder, though, if I can write a villanelle in french...now there's a challenge...

I think most modern writers , especially on online forums, hate forms so i don't think that makes you a rebel.

On the other hand, i would love to see you read one of leanne's sonnets and tell me that you hate it.