10-02-2013, 12:29 PM
Hey, I am surprised by your response! I actually didn't expect that. Thanks!
I never considered that those concepts were too abstract. Of course.. a concept being too abstract.. isn't really a concept, because there's no exclusivity to how abstract a concept can be, unless of course the individual then wants to understand it. Which is interesting because actually, the concepts are instantly abstract on a level with most people, in that most people are familiar with those words, which leaves the problem being that I didn't associate the proper imagery with the concepts?
However, I was hoping that the poem would stir up feelings of remoteness, isolation, and the feeling that sometimes there are some unusual revelations in simple connections found by grasping in different spaces, some trustworthy, some not.
What I think I did with the two lines, that you have described as senseless, is I have connected the two. It is said that good poets try and confuse the readers by removing words, changing words around, etc (poetry must be choosy) and so I redefined (or I feel I created the definition) of a connection between a flower, the wind, the cold, the distance to a certain point of understanding, the exhaustion of the mind and how one thing seems to join the other in quick succession.
The very odd thing about this, is that you've helped me explain some aspects of this poem, and what it means to me. I create poems for myself, because they're introspective. I often find that there are psychologists who might be interested in this kind of thing, which leads me to the question: is it only a matter of interest? Do we write poems for poets, or for anyone? I mean, talking of nonexistence - things that are 'relevant' to one professional, are not relevant to another. So can we assume that there are perfect concepts or descriptions that everyone can understand?.. yet, the goal of poetry is, from what people have said, to show, not to tell.
Interesting thoughts, thanks for helping me out.
I am concerned that this poem is becoming a poem that provokes questions about poetry though. haha, oh dear.
Oh well.
I also look forward to hearing from Rowens again, too.
By the way, are you sure it's a fragment -- because there's a comma at the end of the line ??
Finally, I was thinking possibly that the style this could be spoken in, would be like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4ciZcb9Tc4
I never considered that those concepts were too abstract. Of course.. a concept being too abstract.. isn't really a concept, because there's no exclusivity to how abstract a concept can be, unless of course the individual then wants to understand it. Which is interesting because actually, the concepts are instantly abstract on a level with most people, in that most people are familiar with those words, which leaves the problem being that I didn't associate the proper imagery with the concepts?
However, I was hoping that the poem would stir up feelings of remoteness, isolation, and the feeling that sometimes there are some unusual revelations in simple connections found by grasping in different spaces, some trustworthy, some not.
What I think I did with the two lines, that you have described as senseless, is I have connected the two. It is said that good poets try and confuse the readers by removing words, changing words around, etc (poetry must be choosy) and so I redefined (or I feel I created the definition) of a connection between a flower, the wind, the cold, the distance to a certain point of understanding, the exhaustion of the mind and how one thing seems to join the other in quick succession.
The very odd thing about this, is that you've helped me explain some aspects of this poem, and what it means to me. I create poems for myself, because they're introspective. I often find that there are psychologists who might be interested in this kind of thing, which leads me to the question: is it only a matter of interest? Do we write poems for poets, or for anyone? I mean, talking of nonexistence - things that are 'relevant' to one professional, are not relevant to another. So can we assume that there are perfect concepts or descriptions that everyone can understand?.. yet, the goal of poetry is, from what people have said, to show, not to tell.
Interesting thoughts, thanks for helping me out.
I am concerned that this poem is becoming a poem that provokes questions about poetry though. haha, oh dear.
Oh well.
I also look forward to hearing from Rowens again, too.
By the way, are you sure it's a fragment -- because there's a comma at the end of the line ??
Finally, I was thinking possibly that the style this could be spoken in, would be like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4ciZcb9Tc4