08-31-2013, 02:20 PM
Oh yes, I think I see what you mean... I think 
Yes it does runs downhill in order to demonstrate the point. However, I don't think ending on a low note is counter to the idea about inspiration, any more than is a denouement in a short story or a novel. For music to occur you need both the sound and the silence. As Aristotle pointed out, a drama must have a large part of comedy in order to be dramatic, and vice versa for comedy. For the poem to be all richness and depth, is to drone a single note from end to end. If you only mean you were not surprised, I would suggest you anticipate the words for the dichotomy better than most. Certainly the "end with a whimper or a bang" conclusion has been much used before, although I do not necessary consider that a bad thing, the use of "period" and "exclamation" are not in themselves a trite or cliche usage in my mind, but I will concede that the form of argument is much covered ground.
In my defense I think demanding a surprise twist in a piece so short is..well..rather demanding Theoretically your point seems valid (and I have certainly come down on that side of the argument many times in the past), but in practice I think it becomes the antithesis of what one wishes to achieve. However, I do think you bring up a valid point for poetry in general (I am not entirely sure I have responded exactly to what you have stated), and if you would like to continue to discuss it, I would welcome that.
Thanks for your thoughts,
Dale
Yes it does runs downhill in order to demonstrate the point. However, I don't think ending on a low note is counter to the idea about inspiration, any more than is a denouement in a short story or a novel. For music to occur you need both the sound and the silence. As Aristotle pointed out, a drama must have a large part of comedy in order to be dramatic, and vice versa for comedy. For the poem to be all richness and depth, is to drone a single note from end to end. If you only mean you were not surprised, I would suggest you anticipate the words for the dichotomy better than most. Certainly the "end with a whimper or a bang" conclusion has been much used before, although I do not necessary consider that a bad thing, the use of "period" and "exclamation" are not in themselves a trite or cliche usage in my mind, but I will concede that the form of argument is much covered ground. In my defense I think demanding a surprise twist in a piece so short is..well..rather demanding
Theoretically your point seems valid (and I have certainly come down on that side of the argument many times in the past), but in practice I think it becomes the antithesis of what one wishes to achieve. However, I do think you bring up a valid point for poetry in general (I am not entirely sure I have responded exactly to what you have stated), and if you would like to continue to discuss it, I would welcome that. Thanks for your thoughts,
Dale
How long after picking up the brush, the first masterpiece?
The goal is not to obfuscate that which is clear, but make clear that which isn't.
The goal is not to obfuscate that which is clear, but make clear that which isn't.