07-19-2013, 07:31 PM
(07-19-2013, 07:24 PM)rayheinrich Wrote:I am with Ray on this one for the following reason:(07-18-2013, 06:58 PM)billy Wrote: you're a good poet ray, a really good poet but you're also full of shit
You went down too far in the thread on this one:
Haiku? Senryu? Explanation of the grey areas: (2nd post down)
http://raysweb.net/senryu/haikuvssenryrshiki.html
Notice I said "(2nd post down)", That's the one about the gray areas.
Here's a standard definition of metaphor (this one from from wiki):
A metaphor is a figure of speech that describes a subject by asserting
that it is, on some point of comparison, the same as another otherwise
unrelated object.
I.e. The two parts of a haiku form a metaphor.
So not only can there be metaphor IN a haiku;
but the entirety of a haiku IS a metaphor,
And speaking of internal metaphor: Season words (kigo) are
metaphors as well. While there are only 13 (counting New Years)
main seasonal divisions, there are quite a few thousand kigo.
One reason for this is that kigo are not only metaphors for seasons,
but they denote (depending on the ones you choose) emotions and
other social and abstract qualities as well (love, hate, courage, sorrow,
puzzlement, comradeship, logic, truth, falsehood, existence, Buddhist
parables, etc.). So the kigo are a separate and quite dense source of
symbolic meaning in haiku. They are often described as the haiku's 'window'.
I.e. Kigo are literally metaphors.
(Above is paraphrased by me, not originated.)
ANY pivot or turn is essentially a metaphor. Haiku have pivots, Haiku have metaphor.
(That Kigo stuff is a load of crap though)


