07-18-2013, 04:18 AM
(07-17-2013, 10:25 PM)Brownlie Wrote:Yes, the age-old problem of writer and/or reader not knowingYou give me too much credit some of that metaphorical meaning was by accident some was intentional. of difference
The ambiguity led to the multifarious layers of metaphor. Every word refers to something and when you open them up the point of reference can become convoluted. Puns open up a word to a wealth of meaning. The last lines of To His Coy Mistress ends with a sort of pun that I'm not sure Marvell meant.
what was consciously intentional, what was accident, and
(most problematic) what was subconsciously written. While it's possible
(sometimes) for the writer figure out the first two, he sure as hell
can't be sure about the last. The reader, of course, can't tell any of
them apart; and what's worse, has to interpret using a different
(as you said) point of reference. AND: Has a subconscience as well.
It's a wonder anything ever gets communicated correctly
(probably the only time it does is by fortuitous accident).
(The Chernobyl disaster was partly due to misinterpreting
an operating manual.)
(07-17-2013, 10:25 PM)Brownlie Wrote: Thus, though we cannot make our sun
Stand still, yet we will make him run. -- Did he mean sun or son? certainly if it is son then Marvell is deriding carpe diem. If not, It is a love poem where he is praising carpe diem. Of course, you could say he wrote sun so that is what he meant. However, one could argue he was being more subtle with the pun. These are how interpretation can go I suppose someone might come along and say what I've just written here is rubbish. The title "To His Coy Mistress" Shows a certain disassociation from the narrator and writer.
Writing induces all sorts of dissociative states.
When I write I don't have toes; when I WRITE I'm only fingers.
a brightly colored fungus that grows in bark inclusions


You give me too much credit some of that metaphorical meaning was by accident some was intentional. of difference