05-09-2013, 10:44 AM
Thanks very much for the feedback, Billy and Tectak! The consensus I'm hearing is that the meaning is hidden a bit too far under the surface. If I have to explain the literal meaning, then I'm not doing a good enough job communicating. I'm working on a clearer revision in which I'll be more careful about the players and the timeline.

Tectak, thanks again for your particularly detailed feedback. I really appreciate it, it's making me think, and I expect it'll make me a better writer.
(05-08-2013, 07:33 PM)billy Wrote: thongs ? females?Billy, I meant footwear, not underwear. Maybe I'll change that to crocs – which might play nicely with the alligators on the next line

(05-08-2013, 09:30 PM)trueenigma Wrote: KatrinaHrm... True, this isn't meant to be about Katrina. I'll make that more apparent.
(05-08-2013, 11:29 PM)tectak Wrote: Nice turn of phrase. Do you say lichen as in "kitchen" or lichen as in "liken"? Just curious. Either way, still nice..but now I look at "trickle"Thanks! I say it like "liken."
(05-08-2013, 11:29 PM)tectak Wrote: ...nicely observed but we are in Niagra territory.Wow! Actually, yes, but not quite like you mean. The setting I imagined is maybe an hour drive from Niagara. Of course that's not really significant to the poem as it stands, but I was struck by the coincidence.
(05-08-2013, 11:29 PM)tectak Wrote: "Until" is causative and chronological at the same time. I think you mean chronological. Try "...until the evening AIR throbbed with frogsong". It is not a complete cure but I cannot get this. "How was your evening?". "Oh, throbbing, thanks for asking."Haha! That's a nice catch. I'll noodle on it and see if I can come up with a more purely chronological phrasing.
(05-08-2013, 11:29 PM)tectak Wrote: Catfish consume, surely? Not cattailsI was shooting for the image of flora converting a ruin to mulch, growing out of the remains of the house. I think it works, no?
(05-08-2013, 11:29 PM)tectak Wrote: I don't care about the meter in this piece. It is though, a story so far. Do you think it is a poem. Why?I suppose there's a fine line between free verse and prose poetry. I was aiming for the former and didn't suspect such a strong reaction about the lack of consistent meter. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the distinctions between free verse and prose. Do you have suggestions about how to make a free verse piece more poetic, in a rhythmic sense, without turning it into blank verse?
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Though you show no inkling to make this in any sense metric verse it would help considerably if you could get closer to some rhythmical discipline.
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I kind of liked this because it DOES tell a story. It lacks poetic endeavour and is in fact the antithesis of what poetry is about. That is not a criticism....oh alright, it is...but you could do much better than this with your obvious observational prowess.
Tectak, thanks again for your particularly detailed feedback. I really appreciate it, it's making me think, and I expect it'll make me a better writer.

