What’s wrong with poetry?

[serge gurkski]

I write a poem. and yes, news, evolution is abused as a metaphor. Obviously. And not for the first time (social darwinism). Logically: if evolution is used in the most anarchic way, it follows devolution cannot make sense either. etc yaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwn. Need a drink. I am all for Dada but not if it is not even funny. ,-)

And yes this whole pseudo-poetological babbling makes nothing less than sense.

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what's wrong with poetry?

in nutshell...nothing, the problem lays with the would be poet. the fuss always seems to be about what the poet who wrote it meant, how they suffer for their art. on a site like this i#m really only interested if the poet is trying to improve, i'm long past anything impressing me, be it poetry or anything else. i love seeing someone do an edit or think about how they can improve. what for me defies logic, is someone posting a poem then after getting feedback asking if uch and such is allowed here. they ask because people leave feedback as to why something doesn't work. write any crazy way you like but don't then question whether or not you're allowed to. write as you will and give feedback as will. wehn you don't do or allow either you create the wrongness in poetry.

we should all be allowed to dislike something in your poem, don't be so fucking shocked if someone gives feedback about the silly fucking ideas you experiment with. who knows some may think what you did works. it's a lottory don't cry if you don't win.


think skin is what's wrong woth poetry...too many poets have thin skin and an elevated idea as to their own greatness.

Now that's what I call "case closed". Amen to that , too, billy.
Worryingly, though (to me) is the never ending (hopefully) stream of mixed ability contributors in Serious who ask for crit, post once, get crit...then vanish. I envisage a kind of Elephant's Graveyard full of souls dispossesed of all reason to live..who abandon poetry and take up butterfly collecting or needlepoint. That is not a measured response to crit and indicates to me an ulterior motive for posting...the wish for respect, recognition and self-aggrandisement is high on their agenda. I would be kind to them all but that reeks of positive discrimination. I would not wish that on anyone, particularly me...which is why I am here and not in another place. To improve in poetry is the reason we post...not praise: though faint praise is fiendishly effective...most do not see it and those who do keep quiet and keep posting.
Best,
tectak

To cut it short, Tom. I can tell you why they run away but you know that by yourself: your tone pisses them off. Who was it again just yesterday I think, who wrote that she was afraid of posting and if you and I could relate? (it was on the snower thread). Please reread.

You make valuable comments but sabotage yourself. I told you that in pm. By all means just keep cool. The fact that some or many people are vainglorious does not entitle you to (to quote myself) knock them out tysonishly. Who the fuck do you think you are?

So you write your poems for 50 years? So I shit and pee since I was born almost 50 years ago. Qualifies me how? Does that prove that my turds smell, or if you are so inclined, taste better than yours? Would not bet on it. ,-).


Once again: write your stuff.


cheeze meek and mild!!!!!