Israel

[abu nuwas]

I continue to think that the Zionist project was a nonsense. I do not go on to conclude that Israel should be destroyed. But it has been making 'facts on the ground' since the first settlers arrived, and arrogantly continues to do so. If it cannot bring itself to withdraw substantially, then it is crying out for the other lot, if they can, to make some 'facts on the ground' of their own. Israel plainly has no business in blocking free coming and going, by sea if by no other means. I am sure many thoughtful Israelis know all this.

that's fair comment though Israel wants to minimise the chances of hamas getting their hands on some real guided missile shit, which would probably come in from the sea supplied by Russia or Iran.

I am now wondering what the big deal with Iran is. If they do want a nuclear bomb, why not? Why India and Pakistan, plus US China France and us? Do I like the Ayatollahs? No, I think they are barking mad. But it is a sovereign country.

basically they haven't got one and that's how they want it to stay. most of the world see n Korea and Iran as rogue states. China and Russia included, it's why they veto all efforts to stop them getting the nukes. when there fired, it won't be at them. with nukes you would have another third Reich on your hands. i suppose there's always been a third Reich in those countries but with nukes they'd go on the march

I think you are right about Iran/Egypt -- I think there will be a bit of pouting going on. Tho why everyone seems to think that this means Egypt is kosher (!) beats me -- a President without a constitution? 'There may be trouble ahead'!

if i were to put two and two together. i'd get the usa offering allegiance to mursi and Egypt if the get their allies Hamas to stfu and take part in a cease fire, along with a hefty loan, but the usa are wily bastards when a push comes to a shove and knowing mursi would find it to now decry the cease fire without looking like an arsewipe; the usa states that he's not playing fair and everything that's happening there should be through the rule of the people by constitutional change. the Egyptian people probably won't stand for something worse than mubarak ever was and will oust his bum out of power.. of course the usa will no longer side with mursi and will egg the Egyptians on to usurp him. probably what they had in mind since the first day he took off. it was just lucky that he was still in power when the Israeli problem arose

But Billy --- that was some foresight on my part! I did not expect Mursi to declare himself God the following day, and put the place back into melt-down....