Teaching of homosexuality!

[Todd]

I think we're making the assumption that sex ed gives them a fighting chance. It's been in the schools for decades, many kids have went through it, and STDs and teen pregnancy still goes up.do the statistics suggest that those parents that opted out of sex ed are the reason things are on the rise. It's more likely that everyone across all categories are reflected in the numbers. I remember condoms becoming important when Aids came on the scene. Death will get your attention even when your a teenager. So, everyone was told condoms will protect you from Aids (not entirely true, but close enough). So, now everyone used condoms right? Turns out no. The fear of death couldn't change behavior, but now mandatory sex Ed showing them how to use a condom (which they did in my day without the mandatory) is going to change behavior I doubt it.

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Okay so if educators go the other way and say non-hetero sex is wrong as a part of their sex ed and the pendulum swings that direction are you still comfortable with the life lessons that they pick up. Unlikely, I'll grant you. I don't say in any way fuck the rest of the kids my kids okay. I don't think sex ed is very effective but I don't want to do away with it, but if I don't like what their teaching I'd like to opt my kid out. I used to have that right...what changed?

[billy]

I think we're making the assumption that sex ed gives them a fighting chance. It's been in the schools for decades, many kids have went through it, and STDs and teen pregnancy still goes up.do the statistics suggest that those parents that opted out of sex ed are the reason things are on the rise. It's more likely that everyone across all categories are reflected in the numbers. I remember condoms becoming important when Aids came on the scene. Death will get your attention even when your a teenager. So, everyone was told condoms will protect you from Aids (not entirely true, but close enough). So, now everyone used condoms right? Turns out no. The fear of death couldn't change behavior, but now mandatory sex Ed showing them how to use a condom (which they did in my day without the mandatory) is going to change behavior I doubt it.

of course that never happened in victorian times when sex ed wasn't taught
then almost all working class men never has a dose? well the truth is, proportionally std's were higher then than they are now in the western world. of course sdt's go up, just look at how many we are now to 60 years ago. sex ed lets them know how std's can be avoided. i'm pretty sure that if you take sex ed out of the school system, health care as we know it will be geared up to dealing with stds.

how many school girls make a boyfriend wear condoms. if it's just one that would have had sex without one it's worth it. i'd say without sex ed we'd be up to or ankles in i didn't think it could happen to me's
sure kids are at it now but consequences would be a hell of a lot worse without sex ed and free condoms and birth control.

[billy]

on the opt out thing, i don't know what changed, but what else would you opt out of if you got the chance?

[Todd]

I think we're making the assumption that sex ed gives them a fighting chance. It's been in the schools for decades, many kids have went through it, and STDs and teen pregnancy still goes up.do the statistics suggest that those parents that opted out of sex ed are the reason things are on the rise. It's more likely that everyone across all categories are reflected in the numbers. I remember condoms becoming important when Aids came on the scene. Death will get your attention even when your a teenager. So, everyone was told condoms will protect you from Aids (not entirely true, but close enough). So, now everyone used condoms right? Turns out no. The fear of death couldn't change behavior, but now mandatory sex Ed showing them how to use a condom (which they did in my day without the mandatory) is going to change behavior I doubt it.

of course that never happened in victorian times when sex ed wasn't taught
then almost all working class men never has a dose? well the truth is, proportionally std's were higher then than they are now in the western world. of course sdt's go up, just look at how many we are now to 60 years ago. sex ed lets them know how std's can be avoided. i'm pretty sure that if you take sex ed out of the school system, health care as we know it will be geared up to dealing with stds.

how many school girls make a boyfriend wear condoms. if it's just one that would have had sex without one it's worth it. i'd say without sex ed we'd be up to or ankles in i didn't think it could happen to me's
sure kids are at it now but consequences would be a hell of a lot worse without sex ed and free condoms and birth control.

I don't want to do away with sex ed. It's being pushed as a cure all and its not. All I'm saying is that parents should be able to opt out. Granted, this is my own political bent, but I don't see this as a right my government should get to take away from me. I just see it as one more example of a nanny state telling me that they know better, and I personally disagree.

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on the opt out thing, i don't know what changed, but what else would you opt out of if you got the chance?

Case by case, very little I'm guessing maybe not even sex ed.

[billy]

fair enough, i do agree that there should be an opt out.

[Todd]

Oh last night I did think of one other potential opt out that some parents might want: this may just be a US thing, but on some high school campuses they have mandatory assemblies withn speakers that come in for the stated purpose of teaching self-esteem, or anti-suicide, or anti-drug use. Than they invite the kids back to an evening rally at a church where they give an evangelisc message. Parents may want to be informed and opt out of something like that.

Again, regardless of any personal beliefs I may have that wouldn't be what I would want to use a school for.

[Leanne]

I just opted out of religious ed for my kids -- not because I don't want them brought up with a knowledge of God and such, but because they're being taught by weirdos. My daughter's RE teacher had problems starting her car one morning so, according to her story, her daughter suggested that they pray for the car to start and hey presto! Away they went. Next thing you know, her God will be performing at birthday parties.

So I tend to agree that there should be an opt-out clause for certain extras, as long as the parents are prepared to address the issues themselves with some kind of equanimity instead of just passing on bigotries or denying that certain things exist/happen/may be believed by other people.

[billy]

religion i can understand, it's totally personal thing. where as everyone has a body. the same goes for extra curricular activity, it should be a choice and parents specially where religion is concerned, should be informed so they can give a veto.