Alice in the Asylum: Psychiatric Transcript (Revision 5)
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Revision 5

ADMISSION REPORT SUBMITTED BY CONSTABLE NELSON
The waif was wandering near a costermonger's eel cart. She is a bundle of rags and weeping sores. There was no sense to her words. She was admitted to the facility under the lunacy act of 1845.

Through the warren
Small cuts on the arm
A human sundial


HISTORY OF PRESENT ILLNESS AND PRESENTING PROBLEM
The patient appears to be a 13-year-old female who was found incoherent and disheveled. She exhibits periods of long silence broken by strident outbursts.

words scurry and slink
rearrange before I can speak
dyslexic mice bite


CHIEF SYMPTOMS
The patient suffers from bouts of Ncytophobia, along with Tetraphobia, which is uncommon in one her age. Speculation: The “monsters” may represent abuse during her time on the streets.

eyes draw the Bandersnatch
claws that scrape
claws that catch


MENTAL STATUS EXAMINATION
The patient exhibits signs of persecutory delusional disorder. She regards a mirror as one would a window. Her appearance suffers for this anxiety.

this glass isn't cold
as you suspect the fire leaks
like a warm breath


Patient cannot decide what to eat in the cafeteria; she claims the “sky would break if she chooses wrongly.”

bones remember clouds
ceiling too low for breakfast
The empty bowl


PROVISIONAL DIAGNOSIS AND EVALUATION OF EARLY TREATMENT
Phrenology investigation noted lumps over the right ear, indicating possible destructive tendencies. It would be wise to reject the primitive trepanning treatment, as medication appears to be lessening the patient’s symptoms. More evaluation is necessary.

The grin floats
laughter over my shoulder
last beacon to fade


~~~

Revision 4: Optional

HISTORY OF PRESENT ILLNESS:

The waif was wandering
near a costermonger's eel cart,
a bundle of rags and weeping
sores, brought to the facility under
the lunacy act of 1845.


PRESENTING PROBLEM:

She speaks of rabbits, and marks the passage
of time with small cuts upon her arm--
claims to be a human sundial.
When I took the knife, she settled
into the labored breathing of an Ottoman
opiate-eater.


CHIEF COMPLAINT Patient's own outburst:

It is this dyslexic language I hate
words that scurry and slink
rearrange themselves before
I can speak. But somebody killed
something, or something-or-other!

So childish to fear the dark
night’s plunge into anonymity.
It is the eyes that draw
the Bandersnatch--
claws that scrape,
claws that catch.

You have removed my vanity—
the need to mince gingerly.
I no longer sit to brush my hair,
nor eat without the ache
within my bones.

This glass isn’t cold as you suspect,
the fire leaks like a warm breath.
I feel the grin float
over my shoulder, the last beacon
to fade away.


MENTAL STATUS EXAMINATION:

She cannot decide what to eat
in the cafeteria, claims the sky will break
if she chooses wrongly, and anyway
the ceiling is "too low for breakfast."
She considers mirrors
as I would a window. Her appearance
suffers for this anxiety.


PROVISIONAL DIAGNOSIS:

I have noted the lumps
over her right ear.
Phrenology would indicate
that I was correct
to take the knife.


~~~
I'll probably try some other options later. Thanks all for sticking with me.

Revision 3: Optional

--by order of the Lunacy Act, 1845

It is this dyslexic language I hate
words that scurry and slink
rearrange themselves before
I can speak. But somebody killed
something, or something-or-other!

So childish to fear the dark
night’s plunge into anonymity.
It is the eyes that draw
the Bandersnatch--
claws that scrape,
claws that catch.

You have removed my vanity—
the need to mince gingerly.
I no longer sit to brush my hair,
nor eat without the ache
within my bones.

This glass isn’t cold as you suspect,
the fire leaks like a warm breath.
I feel the grin float
over my shoulder, the last beacon
to fade away.

~~~
Edit notes: Very close to the original. The reason I originally went down this psychiatric notes thing was because the setting wasn't coming through, and to try something different (still a valid reason). That said, I think I took it too far and should take a tip from Ted Kooser and rethink the title.

Revision 2

HISTORY OF PRESENT ILLNESS
The patient appears to be an 13-year-old female who was found wandering around a costermongers eel cart incoherent and disheveled. Police brought her to the facility for evaluation under the lunacy act of 1845.

PRESENTING PROBLEM
The patient exhibits periods of long silence broken by persecutory outbursts.

CHIEF COMPLAINT
Transcribed below is the patients first communication after 4 hours of silence.


It is this dyslexic language I hate
words that scurry and slink
rearrange themselves before
I can speak. But somebody killed
something, or something-or-other!

So childish to fear the dark
night’s plunge into anonymity.
It is the eyes that draw
the Bandersnatch--
claws that scrape,
claws that catch.

You have removed my vanity—
the need to mince gingerly.
I no longer sit to brush my hair,
nor eat without the ache
within my bones.

This glass isn’t cold as you suspect,
the fire leaks like a warm breath.
I feel the grin float
over my shoulder, the last beacon
to fade away.


MENTAL STATUS EXAMINATION
Patient is prone to poor auditory discrimination, exhibits signs of persecutory delusional disorder, expresses anxiety in the cafeteria line, and shows apprehension in front of mirrors.


PROVISIONAL DIAGNOSIS
Phrenology investigation noted lumps over the right ear, indicating possible destructive tendencies. More evaluation is necessary.

~~~

Revision 1

It is this dyslexic language I hate
words that scurry and slink
rearrange themselves before
I can speak.
Subject prone to poor auditory discrimination.
But somebody killed something,
or something-or-other!
I stand by my story.
No lucid dream
to wake from, I tire
of these suggestions.

So childish to fear the dark
night’s plunge into anonymity.
It is the eyes that draw
the Bandersnatch--
claws that scrape,
claws that catch.
Subject exhibits signs of persecutory delusional disorder.
You have removed my vanity—
the need to mince gingerly.
I no longer sit to brush my hair,
nor eat without the ache
within my bones.
Subject expresses anxiety in the cafeteria line.
This glass isn’t cold as you suspect,
the fire leaks like a warm breath.
I feel the grin float
over my shoulder, the last beacon
to fade away.
Subject shows apprehension in front of mirror.

~~~

Original

It is this dyslexic language I hate
words that scurry and slink
rearrange themselves before
I can speak.

But somebody killed something,
or something-or-other!
I stand by my story.
No lucid dream
to wake from, I tire
of these suggestions.

So childish to fear the dark
night’s plunge into anonymity.
It is the eyes that draw
the Bandersnatch--
claws that scrape,
claws that catch.

You have removed my vanity—
the need to mince gingerly.
I no longer sit to brush my hair,
nor eat without the ache
within my bones.

This glass isn’t cold as you suspect,
the fire leaks like a warm breath.
I feel the grin float
over my shoulder, the last beacon
to fade away.
The secret of poetry is cruelty.--Jon Anderson
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(10-18-2010, 02:35 AM)Todd Wrote:  It is this dyslexic language I hate
words that scurry and slink
rearrange themselves before
I can speak.

But somebody killed something,
or something-or-other!
I stand by my story.
No lucid dream
to wake from, I tire
of these suggestions.

So childish to fear the dark
night’s plunge into anonymity.
It is the eyes that draw
the Bandersnatch--
claws that scrape,
claws that catch.

You have removed my vanity—
the need to mince gingerly.
I no longer sit to brush my hair,
nor eat without the ache
within my bones.

This glass isn’t cold as you suspect,
the fire leaks like a warm breath.
I feel the grin float
over my shoulder, the last beacon
to fade away.


Todd, you are a great poet! I've read some of your other poems and wow! I really liked this one especially. Good work!
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#3
Thank you Liz. I appreciate your kind comments.

Best,

Todd
The secret of poetry is cruelty.--Jon Anderson
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#4
(10-18-2010, 02:35 AM)Todd Wrote:  It is this dyslexic language I hate
words that scurry and slink
rearrange themselves before
I can speak.

But somebody killed something,
or something-or-other!
I stand by my story.
No lucid dream
to wake from, I tire
of these suggestions.

So childish to fear the dark
night’s plunge into anonymity.
It is the eyes that draw
the Bandersnatch--
claws that scrape,
claws that catch.

You have removed my vanity—
the need to mince gingerly.
I no longer sit to brush my hair,
nor eat without the ache
within my bones.

This glass isn’t cold as you suspect,
the fire leaks like a warm breath.
I feel the grin float
over my shoulder, the last beacon
to fade away.
i get the feel of wonderland,
the dyslexia, the dream, the bandersnatch from the jabberwok, and the cheshire cat. but for me it isn't as concrete as it could be. mainly it feels tell and not show. it feels like alice is renouncing the dream and accepting it as fact. i think it would help if she had solid images to work with. jmo

that said the last verse is perfect.

thanks for the read todd.
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(10-18-2010, 09:57 AM)billy Wrote:  i get the feel of wonderland,
the dyslexia, the dream, the bandersnatch from the jabberwok, and the cheshire cat. but for me it isn't as concrete as it could be. mainly it feels tell and not show. it feels like alice is renouncing the dream and accepting it as fact. i think it would help if she had solid images to work with. jmo

that said the last verse is perfect.

thanks for the read todd.
Hi Billy,

I appreciate the comments.I'll give them some thought. I read Louise Gluck "Gretel in Darkness" and I've been almost obsessively deconstructing children's stories (everyone needs a hobby Wink)

The idea of Alice being committed and cured was just too tempting to try. "Subject shows aprenhension in front of mirror"

It might make a better short story.

I'll think about your comments as I consider revision.

Thanks Again,

Todd
The secret of poetry is cruelty.--Jon Anderson
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#6
I read Louise Gluck "Gretel in Darkness"
and I've been almost obsessively
deconstructing children's stories
(everyone needs a hobby Wink)

The idea of Alice being committed
and cured was just too tempting to try.
"Subject shows apprehension in front of mirror"

now that's a poem lol.

in those few lines you capture the essence of alice as a study subject.
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#7
Maybe I need to try a clinical rewrite, or pop the voices back and forth between Alice and the Psychiatrist...something to think about.
This might actually work in a sick way. I don't want to do an instant rewrite (those never work) and not saying I'd stay with these lines but maybe something like:

Subject shows apprehension in front of mirror.

You have removed my vanity—
the need to mince gingerly.
I no longer sit to brush my hair,

Subject expresses nervousness in the cafeteria line.

nor eat without the ache
within my bones.

Granted too busy and needs to flow better but that concept might be fun to try.

The secret of poetry is cruelty.--Jon Anderson
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#8
i think the concept is a goer,
and what you've done so far does flow pretty well.

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#9
So, I finally attempted to redo this one. I was concerned that the flow would be damaged with the psychiatry notes. What do you all think does this compromise work? Cut it? Keep it? Opinions welcome...

Thanks
The secret of poetry is cruelty.--Jon Anderson
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#10
Our english teacher made us read "Gretel in Darkness" in school, back when all we ignorant kids knew about poetry was Shakespeare's sonnets Big Grin. It was a hell of an eye-opener.

The addition of psychiatric notes work very well... they add a great dimension to the piece. Especially that ending, where you used it to chilling effect. If I absolutely had to pick one nit, maybe "dyslexic" sounds a little too clinically self-aware for the dream/hallucination part. Of course, style-wise, it doesn't really detract from the piece, which is nicely disturbing especially now with the edit.
PS. If you can, try your hand at giving some of the others a bit of feedback. If you already have, thanks, can you do some more?
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#11
Personally I think the notes make up a different kind of poem all on their own -- which is a good thing Smile I don't think the current format is ideal but because I'm technically incompetent, I don't know how to make it more obviously notes -- italics might help though, and if they could be a bit closer to the main text.

I was momentarily distracted by the Bandersnatch and wondered at its use, until I paid attention to the title. To that end, I'd probably suggest slightly more definite motifs in each stanza as the only other one that stands out to me is the glass. The second stanza is quite "telly", but you certainly need part of it -- I'm just not sure which part. I think it's probably "no lucid dream to wake from" that pushes it over the edge for me.

On the whole though, this is fine poetry and the clinical notes definitely give it a unique, interesting edge.
It could be worse
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#12
not quite a cleave poem but you've added an extra dimension.
with the edit, it has more clarity for me as well. would you consider making the main body of the body bold
in order to visually differentiate the shrink and alice. apart from that nit i can't see as i can give any constructive feedback.

nice edit todd.

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#13
Todd

You have some good stuff here and some fluff.

Would have liked more characters from Wonderland to appear in this person. "Wonderland delusion."

Not sure when you wrote this but "Underland" is more up to date with the Red Queen, Jabberwocky and such, with a more mature patient as Alice is in her return visit.

I think the psychiatric notes are need because this is a psychiatric transcript. The other way of doing it would involve only observations
from the psychiatrist, with a lead in of a stanza where the patient is talking.

This has a lot of potential

Just my opinion

David
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(06-30-2011, 08:21 AM)addy Wrote:  Our english teacher made us read "Gretel in Darkness" in school, back when all we ignorant kids knew about poetry was Shakespeare's sonnets Big Grin. It was a hell of an eye-opener.

The addition of psychiatric notes work very well... they add a great dimension to the piece. Especially that ending, where you used it to chilling effect. If I absolutely had to pick one nit, maybe "dyslexic" sounds a little too clinically self-aware for the dream/hallucination part. Of course, style-wise, it doesn't really detract from the piece, which is nicely disturbing especially now with the edit.
Hi Addy,

Thanks for the comments. Gretel in Darkness might be one of my favorite by Louise Gluck.

The opening:

This is the world we wanted.
All who would have seen us dead
are dead. I hear the witch's cry
break in the moonlight through a sheet
of sugar: God rewards.
Her tongue shrivels into gas

And the end also:

we are there still and it is real, real,
that black forest and the fire in earnest.

Such great writing.

I see your point on dsylexic and I'll give it some thought.

I have some other options I may try...I'll address them in a post after I've addressed the other comments. Though with my schedule it may be a few weeks before I have the time to execute them.

Thanks again,

Todd
(06-30-2011, 09:11 AM)Leanne Wrote:  Personally I think the notes make up a different kind of poem all on their own -- which is a good thing Smile I don't think the current format is ideal but because I'm technically incompetent, I don't know how to make it more obviously notes -- italics might help though, and if they could be a bit closer to the main text.

I was momentarily distracted by the Bandersnatch and wondered at its use, until I paid attention to the title. To that end, I'd probably suggest slightly more definite motifs in each stanza as the only other one that stands out to me is the glass. The second stanza is quite "telly", but you certainly need part of it -- I'm just not sure which part. I think it's probably "no lucid dream to wake from" that pushes it over the edge for me.

On the whole though, this is fine poetry and the clinical notes definitely give it a unique, interesting edge.
Hi Leanne,

I appreciate the comments. It's always nice when a critique gives you something to think about. Most of my poems go through 40-100 revisions even after I'm sure I'm done. I will give attention to S2 and the lucid dream phrasing. I get what your saying about motiffs by my reckoning I count four though two may be way too subtle and thus not do what they should. I do think though that you're probably right in pointing it out. If I had stronger allusions in points it would probably help the contrast between wonderland and the notes.

As to the format I have two other options in mind which I'll detail below. I'm not sure if the site interface will actually let me do them so I may need to do a repost and describe how they should look. More on that later.

Thank you again.

Best,

Todd


(06-30-2011, 05:45 PM)billy Wrote:  not quite a cleave poem but you've added an extra dimension.
with the edit, it has more clarity for me as well. would you consider making the main body of the body bold
in order to visually differentiate the shrink and alice. apart from that nit i can't see as i can give any constructive feedback.

nice edit todd.
Hey Billy, Thank you for the comments. I'm glad it's moving forward for you. The formatting is a work in progress so I'll show you some other looks soon.

Best,

Todd


Hi David,

You bring up some good points and I may need to tweak the title abit. The original title was "And What She Found There" and while I'm not going back to it, it was playing on the sequel title: Alice's adventures through the looking glass and what she found there." So, your points on the Red Queen and the Jaberwocky make a lot of sense. I'll give it all some thought (and try not to be sloppy with the source material). I see what you mean about wonderland characters (sort of what leanne was also pointing out with motiffs). I'll definitely look to that in a future revision. It may come after I've dealt with the clinical notes but I will get to it.

A lot to think about and very much appreciated.

Best,

Todd

(06-30-2011, 10:16 PM)critical mass Wrote:  Todd

You have some good stuff here and some fluff.

Would have liked more characters from Wonderland to appear in this person. "Wonderland delusion."

Not sure when you wrote this but "Underland" is more up to date with the Red Queen, Jabberwocky and such, with a more mature patient as Alice is in her return visit.

I think the psychiatric notes are need because this is a psychiatric transcript. The other way of doing it would involve only observations
from the psychiatrist, with a lead in of a stanza where the patient is talking.

This has a lot of potential

Just my opinion

David

Okay to formatting:

I tried the italicized comments within the text and felt that it came across too disjointed. I'm thinking of either footnoting with the psychiatic notes at the bottom or my more likely choice will be too expand the notes and have this sit like a case study:

Some transcript lead in comment

Then the poem (though likely expanded a bit)

Then the notes across the bottom think of it sitting under a bolded underline sort of like where you'd see an official use only box at the bottom of a form. I would expand the observations a bit but still try to keep them more poetic than prose (which may be difficult--but the idea of a clinical poem interpreting a fanciful poem appeals to me--if I can pull it off)...again this may take a couple weeks or months depending on when I can get to the revision.


Thank you all again for your very helpful comments.
The secret of poetry is cruelty.--Jon Anderson
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#15
Just did a major revision after two years. Please let me know if this is closer to working.

Thank you
The secret of poetry is cruelty.--Jon Anderson
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#16
I think this is a pretty cool project Todd, one that you can continue to work with and produce multiple excerpts for. I actually found the psychiatrist's notes more intriguing than the patient's poetic communique. Nonetheless, I am attracted to the Lewis Carrol references. I don't have a lot of advice for you after one read. This will take some study to properly critique!
My new watercolor: 'Nightmare After Christmas'/Chris
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#17
Thanks for checking it out Chris. I appreciate any feedback at this point.

Best,

Todd
The secret of poetry is cruelty.--Jon Anderson
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Hi Todd,
I really like the idea of the children’s stories making up a whole series of poems. This is a brilliant take on the wonderland . Loving the clinical notes. Not sure I am qualified to say what such notes would be written like so my comments might be miles off. Best effort to contribute a sensible crit for you



HISTORY OF PRESENT ILLNESS
The patient appears to be an 13-year-old female who was found wandering around a costermongers eel cart incoherent and dishevelled. Police brought her to the facility for evaluation under the lunacy act of 1845.
I love the shrink notes but feel they are a bit too wordy and not clipped enough. Not sure what shrink notes might look like but had a go to show what I might expect:- The patient, unidentified female, early teens, possibly13-years was found wandering around a costermongers eel cart. She has been brought in for evaluation under the lunacy act of 1845 due to her incoherent and dishevelled state.

PRESENTING PROBLEM
The patient exhibits periods of long silence broken by persecutory outbursts. (Love the use of persecutory – very good mix between wonderland and psychiatric talk)

CHIEF COMPLAINT
Transcribed below is the patients first communication after 4 hours of silence. This made me look at the transcript and immediately thought – a shrink would have aligned it left and perhaps even set it out as a paragraph, so if you want to keep this layout would need to have been written by Alice . Perhaps the construct of the entry notes could be reversed to achieve this. After four hours of silence the patient transcribed the following communication.

It is this dyslexic language I hate
words that scurry and slink ? comma here
rearrange themselves before
I can speak. But somebody killed
something, or something-or-other!

So childish to fear the dark
night’s plunge into anonymity.
It is the eyes that draw
above… Feels almost too coherent in sentence construct esp after the great first two lines.
the Bandersnatch--
claws that scrape,
claws that catch.

You have removed my vanity—
the need to mince gingerly. This made me smile – nice image
I no longer sit to brush my hair,
nor eat without the ache
within my bones.

This glass isn’t cold as you suspect,
the fire leaks like a warm breath.
I feel the grin float
over my shoulder, the last beacon
to fade away. This who stanza feels really solid and I love it.



MENTAL STATUS EXAMINATION
Patient is prone to poor auditory discrimination, exhibits signs of persecutory delusional disorder, expresses anxiety in the cafeteria line, and shows apprehension in front of mirrors.


PROVISIONAL DIAGNOSIS
Phrenology investigation noted lumps over the right ear, indicating possible destructive tendencies. More evaluation is necessary.
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Hi Alison,

I'm tempted to pull all the notes down to the bottom except for one psychiatric lead in. I also can work on bringing up the fear quotient with the bandersnatch section.

Much Appreicated,

Todd
The secret of poetry is cruelty.--Jon Anderson
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#20
Poor poor alice. You know how much I love her. I can't pick this apart, it reeks of Gluck and that is wonderful. The situation you've put her in is fantastic. I just can praise and not find fault, sorry I'm being a terrible critic.

love ya,
mel.
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