women blamed for being victims.

[srijantje]

well,that's how you keep'm under control,and oh yeah,for allah's sake,don't let'm drive cars either.

[mrmod]

Islam is just a whole new story. I find it just wrong that evrybody assumes that every muslim woman is treated like this

Yes women are treated worse than animals in some parts of the middles east. But not everyone who follows the Shariah is affected negatively.

So if you're bringing religion into the discussion just keep that in mind.

[billy]

Islam is just a whole new story. I find it just wrong that evrybody assumes that every muslim woman is treated like this

Yes women are treated worse than animals in some parts of the middles east. But not everyone who follows the Shariah is affected negatively.

So if you're bringing religion into the discussion just keep that in mind.

okay so even with religion being brought into it as s/dan points out. we still get the same mentality.

a woman get raped in some parts of india. she needs at least four witnesses (i think) to prove she was raped. if she hasn't got a witness and she says she was raped the case is thrown out of court and she's fucking stoned....and i don't mean they give her a joint either. can it get worse than that.

[mrmod]

I think cos these places are such men centered cultures they have found a way to "keep women in their place". By force. I mean who makes these laws in the first place? Sure it ain't women.

So the blame is on men. What happens if it's a woman rapist?

[cigarbabe]

Islam is just a whole new story. I find it just wrong that evrybody assumes that every muslim woman is treated like this

Where did I say that I or anybody assumes this?

I am speaking of some particular acts that were forced on some women of a friend.

This is not a "new thing" for women anywhere.
I hope you will now link to some studies that show which women
in what country that has a Muslim majority of course where they are not treated
as less than human beings.
Please.

Yes women are treated worse than animals in some parts of the middles east. But not everyone who follows the Shariah is affected negatively.

I was speaking very specifically if you noticed.

So if you're bringing religion into the discussion just keep that in mind.

I did that was why I was specific.

I think cos these places are such men centered cultures they have found a way to "keep women in their place". By force. I mean who makes these laws in the first place? Sure it ain't women.

So the blame is on men. What happens if it's a woman rapist?

Please sir,
Find me three credible cases of women being the perpetrator in a country
ruled by Sharia.
Also make sure that the consequences are the same
for the men as it would be for the women.
C.B.

[billy]

islam in general the muslim world in general and the west in general.

women in the west have much more freedom in general.
women in the middle east have less.

women are treated differently in both places. the regime for women in parts of india and the middle east is much harsher. even here in the philippines a woman can go to prison for adultery. a man can't. (it's a catholic country) some countries inforce their laws through religion or at the very least have a big say on them. christian religions here is a big bad thing.

[mrmod]

Islam is just a whole new story. I find it just wrong that evrybody assumes that every muslim woman is treated like this

Where did I say that I or anybody assumes this?

You didn't. But i didn't say you said it either. But from experince alot of people i know are very prejudiced towards muslims for whatever reason. I was asking for people to think before they write about muslims in a biased manner. You just simply misunderstood me.

I was speaking very specifically if you noticed.

I think you mentioned in the post. Glad you repeated though....

So if you're bringing religion into the discussion just keep that in mind.

I did that was why I was specific.

Again. Did I not say you weren't specific? No. I just said to keep it in mind. Not to you, but everyone.

I think cos these places are such men centered cultures they have found a way to "keep women in their place". By force. I mean who makes these laws in the first place? Sure it ain't women.

So the blame is on men. What happens if it's a woman rapist?

Please sir,
Find me three credible cases of women being the perpetrator in a country
ruled by Sharia.
Also make sure that the consequences are the same
for the men as it would be for the women.
C.B.

And i wasn't talking about the Shariah here. Wasn't specific enough. I sure do not know of any women perpetrators in theocratic Islamic countries. I meant worldwide. My bad

Question still stands though. What would happen? (in Wester countries)... would the man be the victim?

[billy]

3 women ‘dupe, kidnap, rape’ man in Karachi;

so that would be times
though not sharia;

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp...009_pg7_24

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3 women ‘dupe, kidnap, rape’ man in Karachi;

so that would be times
though not sharia;

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp...009_pg7_24

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[billy]

3 women ‘dupe, kidnap, rape’ man in Karachi;

so that would be times
though not sharia;

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp...009_pg7_24

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sorry guys it's gone.
basically they forced him to be their plaything. left him in bits.
were found guilty.

[srijantje]

the guy didn't complain,did he?

[billy]

the guy didn't complain,did he?

yes, it's why they were taken to court and convicted :p