volcano

[DUBLIN5]

vf stop tryin to cover up please and stay on topic..you have bein reported for sniping here thank you and goodbye

[billy]

it looks like the aviation authority for europe is going to have to start changing flight patterns re height etc or else pretty soon it won't have an aviation industry to plot courses for.

for now this is mainly affecting europe. won't be long before it affects the whole world. (those places need somewhere to send their international flights to. cargo has to be sent specially the perishable stuff by air freight.

wonder what course of action they'll take.

[srijantje]

can everybody stay on topic please and concentrate on the volcano and its rather serious concequences?/mod

[billy]

flights are moving in the uk again.

[srijantje]

yes,strange,i don't see much difference in the atmospheric ash distribution[what a sentence],so they got it wrong in the beginning or they caved in to economic pressure.let's hope there's no plane falling out of the sky.

[billy]

yes,strange,i don't see much difference in the atmospheric ash distribution[what a sentence],so they got it wrong in the beginning or they caved in to economic pressure.let's hope there's no plane falling out of the sky.

the cost of paying out to one that falls is now cheaper than paying out to all the cancelled flights.

[srijantje]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/apr...human-race

[billy]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/apr...human-race

interesting read but apart from aviation we are much more capable of dealing with what happened then than they were.

maybe if a good few went off at once we could really be concerned but again it's still an if. what happens if a 15 mile wide asteroid hits earth?

[srijantje]

i think that an asteroid strike is much more unlikely than a big vulcano eruption.
yes ,we are more capable of surviving maybe,but the chaos this relative small eruption caused makes me think

[srijantje]

great pic,VF,the best yet

[billy]

i agree with sj, great pic vf.

if it wouldn't affect my exchange rate for the pound i'd love to see the big one nearby blow it's top. it would be staggering.

[billy]

someone tool a chopper near it and you could see the lightening in the ash clouds. nature is a wonderful killer.

[Benny2guns]

Remember that ash cloud? It didn’t exist, says new evidence
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...dence.html

[billy]

maybe they aired on the side of caution.
it was a scenario they never faced before
and the mets aircraft wasn't in service.
i do think they would have sent up an empty commercial plane to do the testing.

i also remember my family saying it was dark over the nw of the uk and dubs said the same thing here.

maybe next time they'll do it differently.

[mrmod]

Remember that ash cloud? It didn’t exist, says new evidence
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...dence.html

That is veritable... In the NE we had lovely weather sometimes . Others it was raining. But the skies were never very dark...

Amazing what people do under panic...

[Benny2guns]

Satellite photos seem to say there was no ash cloud. I stumbled on the article by accident and don't really care myself but thought about this thread when I did. I might add that it gets dark everywhere for a number of reasons other than a dust cloud from a volcano.

[billy]

Interesting idea. The volcano spits out an estimated 750 tons per second of ash at it's peak, and now there are folks saying it never really happened.

Maybe it was all a conspiracy by the British MET office to bankrupt the European airlines?

Seriously guys, it did all happen.

like i said it never happened before, i'd sooner have them ere on the side of safety rather than face death lol. maybe they could have opened the air up sooner. but for once it seemed the govs of the west put their citizens over money.

as for the war games that took place, they don't fly at the same altitudes as commercial airliners, and if i remember one of their jets had glass in one of its' jets.

it also seemed the newspaper got it's facts wrong.

To test the safety of the skies, some fighter jets flew during the closure period. Not all came back unscathed — one Belgian F-16 and two Finnish F-18s reportedly had engine damage after flying through the ash cloud, an outcome that could bode ill for future fighter operations if the volcano continues to belch ash.

Like their commercial cousins, fighters, reconnaissance planes, helicopters and other military aircraft around the region sat idle for days. They are just now beginning to come back to life, although fighter jets — which have highly sensitive engines — remain grounded across much of Europe.

source;

[mrmod]

Seriously guys, it did all happen.

We're not dismissing that it didn't happen. I'm just saying that maybe it wasn't as severe as we thought it was.

Some of us thought this was something that was going to affect Europe deeply. But we quickly horsed through it.

It may become worse, but you have to admit that panic was perhaps a bit too much.

[billy]

i'd sooner have a panic that saves lives than an indifference that doesn't.

some of these armed forces jets went up days after the initial outpouring when it wasn't so bad and still got engine damage. and the thing is the commercial airlines would have been at the height of the cloud for much longer periods.
(i assume this because the forces jets are allowed to fly high or low)

my daughter couldn't fly in for her sisters 30th because of it but i'd prefer her safe and sound than have someone who isn't sure taking a chance and saying ,,,no it's okay go on take the plane.

[mrmod]

True. Panic is not always a bad thing. But just looking back, we thought that Europe was crumbling when in fact it was just that flights got canceled.