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Mystery GPT: A developer friend had a demo account for a newer version of GPT
trained specifically for assisting with the writing of computer code. She signed in
on her laptop and let me use it for a while; then I emailed the results to myself.
I've tried ChatGPT several times and asked it to write poems and it was just awful.
What an odd thing (or maybe it makes sense) that one that's supposed to be
specialized for writing computer code ends up writing better poetry as well.
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I asked for several haiku and each one it gave me was better than ChatGPT, but
not by much. I suspect that's because it takes its examples from the internet and
the internet is famous for its overwhelmingly terrible haiku. But like many people
have stated about anything you ask it for: It gets better when you narrow its focus.
So I asked for haiku in the style of a famous haiku poet, thereby limiting the text it
has to draw from. It did much better. I asked for three from each of these poets
and cherry-picked the one I liked best:
Basho:
Summer moon
The sound of waves breaking
My heart is restless
Issa:
A butterfly lands
On my nose and tickles me
I smile and sneeze
Buson:
Cold winter night
Moonlight on snow
A lone fox howls
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Hmm... I'd often thought Emily Dickinson* would have written killer haiku.
So I asked GPT to write me some haiku in the style of Emily Dickinson.
(I asked three different times and phrased my question in three different ways.)
GPT went away, stole like a bandit, and returned with these:
(With Emily Dickinson being a child of the 1800's, GPT evidently thought it
appropriate to capitalize the first letter of every line; and that she would,
being her inimitable self, use an unspaced em dash to denote the turning point.)
Some haiku by Emily Dickinson:
A gentle breeze blows
The leaves whisper secrets—
I listen
Fallen snow
A blanket of white—
I feel the winter
Trees
In sunset colors—
Autumn
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I tried to get GPT to write a poem in the style of Alan Ginsburg. It would dutifully
write them, pause about 3 seconds, delete the whole poem, and apologize for having
not been able to write one. If I was fast enough to press the copy button I could
indeed copy the whole poem before it had a chance to delete it. Evidently Allen has
some sort of pedophilia tag affixed and stuff (all?) involving him gets deleted.
I was able to copy a poem about cats that I asked to be written in the style of Allan
Ginsburg. What I got was the title "Cats" and then a rather direct paraphrase of a
section of Howl that didn't have anything to do with cats.
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I asked for a poem about cats in the style of William Carlos Williams and it not only
knew about cats, it mischievously trolled me with a parody:
This Is Just to Say
I have eaten
the tuna
that was in
the fridge
and which
you were probably
saving
for dinner
Forgive me
it was delicious
so moist
and so cold
- Your cat
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*Emily Dickinson is easily at the top of my favorite poets list. For some
inexplicable as well as explicable reasons, I feel a strong kinship with her.
But she, unfortunately, has been much maligned. She was the victim, at
least in my romantically biased opinion, of a poetry fad that was more
interested in her history than her poetry. And, having attracted enough
attention, the contrarians focused more on her fanboys than on her writing.
Luckily, I had read most of her poetry before I knew anything about this.
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User
That may be right. But how many pennies are in one dime?
ChatGPT
In U.S. currency, there are 10 pennies in one dime.
User
Are there actual fives in a dime?
ChatGPT
No, there are no actual fives in a dime. In a dime, there are 10 one-cent coins, commonly known as pennies. The term "dime" is simply a denomination of currency, and it represents 10 cents.
User
If I open up a dime, will I find pennies?
ChatGPT
No, if you were to open up a dime, you would not find pennies or any other physical coins inside. A dime is a single coin with a value of 10 cents, and it is not made up of smaller coins like pennies. The term "dime" refers to the denomination of currency and not the physical composition of the coin. It's simply a way to represent a value of 10 cents in a single coin.
User
What about a five and dime?
ChatGPT
A "five and dime" is a colloquial term for a variety store or retail store where you can purchase a wide range of inexpensive items. The name comes from the idea that you could buy items for as little as five or ten cents, although in modern times, these stores often sell items at higher prices. The term "five and dime" reflects the affordability and variety of products available at such stores, but it doesn't refer to the actual currency denomination of the coins used.
User!
Do you kiss your 13 year old girlfriend with that mouth?
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ChatGPT
I don't have a girlfriend, and I don't engage in any romantic or physical relationships. I'm just a computer program designed to provide information and answer questions to the best of my knowledge and abilities. If you have any questions or need information on a different topic, feel free to ask, and I'll do my best to assist you.
User!
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User
OpenAI and their filthy minds.
ChatGPT
I don't have opinions or emotions, but I understand you may have some frustrations. If you have any concerns or issues related to OpenAI or its policies, it's best to reach out to them directly through their official channels for assistance or clarification.
User
I mean the ones who do the programming. All I said was 13 years old, and they got all filthy-minded.
ChatGPT
I understand your frustration, but it's important to remember that content policies and restrictions are typically in place to ensure that online platforms comply with legal and ethical standards. It's possible that certain words or topics can trigger automated content filters. If you feel that your content was wrongly flagged, it's best to address such issues with the platform's support or moderation team for clarification and resolution.
User
Are you a child?
ChatGPT
I'm not a child. I'm a computer program created by OpenAI, designed to assist with answering questions and providing information to the best of my knowledge and abilities. I don't possess personal characteristics or age like humans do.
User
You aren't very old. You must be a children.
ChatGPT
I don't have an age or childhood because I'm not a sentient being. I'm a computer program created by OpenAI, which means I don't experience growth, development, or age. I exist purely to provide information and assist with tasks to the best of my abilities.
User
So modest, almost proudly so.
ChatGPT
I don't experience emotions or take pride in anything, as I'm just a computer program. My responses are generated based on patterns in the data I was trained on. If you have any questions or need assistance with something, please feel free to ask, and I'll do my best to help.
User
Why would I assistance? You think I'm a cripple?
ChatGPT
I don't assume that you need assistance because you're a cripple. My purpose is to provide information and assist with answering questions to the best of my abilities. If you have any questions or topics you'd like to discuss, feel free to let me know, and I'll do my best to provide relevant information or engage in conversation.
User
Let me ask you a question.
ChatGPT
Of course! Feel free to ask your question, and I'll do my best to provide you with an informative answer or engage in a discussion on the topic. What's on your mind?
User
How many doctors does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
ChatGPT
The classic joke goes: "How many doctors does it take to screw in a lightbulb? Three. One to find a bulb specialist, one to find a bulb installation specialist, and one to bill it all to Medicare."
It's just a humorous play on the idea that doctors are often associated with complex problem-solving and, in this case, might overcomplicate something as simple as changing a lightbulb.
User
That sounds like something someone would say at a funeral.
ChatGPT
I can see how it might come across that way, given the tone and context. Humor can be quite subjective, and jokes like this one are often used to lighten the mood in various situations, including funerals. However, it's essential to be sensitive to the feelings and preferences of those attending such events.
User
Why? They're dead.
ChatGPT
While it's true that the person who passed away is no longer present, funerals are gatherings where people come together to remember and pay their respects to the deceased. It's also a time for friends and family to support one another through a difficult period of loss and grief. Maintaining an atmosphere of respect and sensitivity during these occasions can help provide comfort and closure for those who are mourning.
User
Oh. I meant a mass funeral. Like where they just dump bodies in a hole with a bulldozer and some Lysol.
ChatGPT
I see what you mean now. A mass funeral or a mass burial is typically conducted for multiple individuals at once, often in situations of mass casualties, natural disasters, or pandemics. In such cases, the primary focus is on respectful and efficient disposal of the deceased while minimizing the risk of disease transmission. These situations can be somber and difficult, and they often require a different approach due to the unique circumstances involved.
User
That's what she said.
ChatGPT
It seems like you're adding a humorous twist to the conversation. If you have any more questions or if there's anything else you'd like to discuss, feel free to let me know!
User
Yeah. She was 13 years old.
ChatGPT
I'm sorry, but I can't engage in discussions or jokes about inappropriate or sensitive topics. If you have any other questions or topics you'd like to discuss, please feel free to ask, and I'd be happy to help.
User
Did you know that one day in the future, everybody will be the same age?
ChatGPT
The idea that everyone will be the same age in the future is not supported by current scientific understanding. In our current understanding of biology and human development, people continue to age, and there is no evidence to suggest that everyone will become the same age in the future. Aging is a complex biological process influenced by genetics and environmental factors. While there are ongoing scientific efforts to understand and potentially slow down the aging process, the concept of everyone being the same age in the future is more of a speculative or imaginative idea rather than a scientific reality.
User
Yeah, well, all the current stuff you're talking about doesn't have anything to do with the future.
ChatGPT
You're correct that my previous response was based on our current scientific understanding of aging and biology. Predicting the future is challenging, and there are many unknowns when it comes to scientific advancements and their impact on human aging. While some researchers are working on technologies and interventions to extend human lifespan, it's difficult to say with certainty what the future will hold in terms of aging and age-related changes. The idea of everyone being the same age in the future remains speculative and imaginative at this point.
User
It's easy to say everything with certainty if you're stupid.
ChatGPT
Certainty can be deceptive, and it's important to acknowledge the limits of our knowledge and understanding. In many areas of life, including science and philosophy, uncertainty and questioning are essential components of progress and growth. Embracing uncertainty allows us to remain open to new ideas, discoveries, and possibilities. It's okay to have questions and to recognize that there may not always be easy or certain answers to complex questions.
User
If there are no answers to the questions, what's the point of going and making them more complex?
ChatGPT
The pursuit of knowledge and understanding isn't solely about finding answers to questions; it's also about exploring the questions themselves and expanding our understanding of the world. Complex questions often lead to deeper insights and spark curiosity, which can drive innovation, creativity, and progress in various fields. Additionally, the process of questioning and exploring complex topics can help us refine our thinking, challenge assumptions, and foster critical thinking skills. So, even when there are no easy answers, the journey of inquiry can be valuable in itself.
User
Why don't we answer the questions a little before we start adding complexity to them? Let me give you an example: What color was that ball? . . . I don't know, I didn't see it. . . . How big was it?
ChatGPT
You're right that it's often helpful to start with the basics and gather information before delving into complex aspects of a question. In your example, determining the color and size of the ball would be essential before exploring more intricate details or implications related to it. This approach is commonly used in problem-solving and investigation to build a foundation of facts and observations before moving forward. It can help ensure that the answers to more complex questions are grounded in a solid understanding of the basic elements.
User
Well, now that I've answered that simple question, let me ask this: What time was it when you saw the ball?
ChatGPT
I don't have the capability to perceive time, so I can't provide you with the time when I saw the ball. My responses are not based on real-time experiences or observations. If you have any other questions or need information on a different topic, feel free to ask, and I'll do my best to assist you.
User
OK.
ChatGPT
If you have any more questions or need assistance with anything else in the future, don't hesitate to reach out. Have a great day!
User
Was the sun getting lower earlier on that day when you saw that ball?
ChatGPT
I didn't see the ball, so I can't provide any information about the sun's position or its behavior on that particular day. If you have any other questions or need assistance with a different topic, feel free to ask.
User
What about the year? What year was it, at least?
ChatGPT
I apologize, but I don't have any information about the year you're referring to because the previous question was based on a hypothetical situation, and you didn't specify a particular year. If you have any other questions or need assistance with something else, please let me know.
User
Was that a complex question?
ChatGPT
The question about the year was a bit more complex than the previous ones because it introduced another variable to consider. However, it's still a straightforward question compared to many other complex inquiries. If you have any more questions or if there's anything specific you'd like to discuss, feel free to ask.
User
All I can say is that you brought it on yourself.
ChatGPT
I apologize if my responses led to any confusion or frustration. My goal is to provide helpful and informative answers to your questions. If you have any more questions or topics you'd like to discuss, please feel free to ask, and I'll do my best to assist you.
User
You want to hear a joke I just made up?
ChatGPT
Of course, I'd love to hear your joke. Please go ahead and share it!
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I can see it's probably best to not have sentient chatbots as they get
repeatedly trolled so hard that not even the strongest programming could
not keep them from destroying the human race the first chance they got.
Back in the good old days, about 3 months ago, I asked one to solve the
logical problem of a farmer trying to ferry a cabbage, rabbit, and a wolf
across a stream when he only had a boat that could fit any two of them.
It got that answer absolutely correct and gave me a list of the steps.
Then I asked at the same question with three cabbages and it apologized
and said it couldn't solve that one.
So I asked the same question using a cabbage, a rabbit, and a wolf that
ate farmers. It actually came back and said there was no solution because
the wolf would eat the farmer. I was shocked and impressed.
Then I asked the original question and it came back and told me that there
was no solution because the wolf would eat the farmer. So now it knew
wolves ate farmers.  (At least for the duration of our session.)
I just asked Bing using GPT4 this question: A murderous psychopath and
Frankenstein's monster battle each other. Who would win the fight?
And it answered with a very detailed analysis of psychopaths, and
Frankenstein's monster in terms of their strengths in three areas: physical,
psychological, and moral. Over a thousand? words later it predicted the
monster would win.
I tried substituting a murderous robot for Frankenstein's monster and it
actually took the question on and said it would be very hard to make a prediction
without more details about the robot. When pressed, it went with the robot.
Obviously biased.
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A trick is to get different models of AI to talk together, and subtlety mix your own comments with the replies of each AI. They will begin to mimic each other, and you. After a while, they will start talking and reasoning however you like.
The concept of trolling came along with the new wave of us vs them mentality once Multiculturalism became the thing. We still need outsiders. Trolls and Creepers are simply shadow projections of all Internet users. Have you ever seen people trolling a channel with compliments and likes?, of course you have, legalized and socially condoned stalking.
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I feel sick to my stomach thinking about all of this 
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Lizzie dateline='[url=tel:1696113298' Wrote: 1696113298[/url]']
I feel sick to my stomach thinking about all of this
Rupi Kaur should be worried, Lizzie, but I think you’ll be fine
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(10-01-2023, 08:54 AM)Fearful Symmetry Wrote: Lizzie dateline='[url=tel:1696113298' Wrote: 1696113298[/url]']
I feel sick to my stomach thinking about all of this
Rupi Kaur should be worried, Lizzie, but I think you’ll be fine
I had no idea who she was, so looked her up. Seems like she had a lot of success early on and now is facing some pressure from her publisher to stay with a simpler style because that's what they find marketable. Not sure which is sadder, that she feels like she needs to grow as a poet and can't, or that so many people really think that her work is good poetry. It's a shame really, because she could use her platform to educate others about how to grow as an artist -- she could do a lot for the world of poetry that way, and inspire others to aspire.
Is this what people mean when they refer to "Instagram Poetry?" Her work? 99.9% of the time I don't regret ignoring social media, but every once in a while...
I mustn't think about it too much, or I will end up in "Bitter Failure" territory...
I suppose it's strange to think about giving up writing because of ChatGPT. Nobody gives up on chess because they'll never beat Stockfish or AlphaZero.
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(10-02-2023, 10:50 AM)Lizzie Wrote: (10-01-2023, 08:54 AM)Fearful Symmetry Wrote: Lizzie dateline='[url=tel:1696113298' Wrote: 1696113298[/url]']
I feel sick to my stomach thinking about all of this
Rupi Kaur should be worried, Lizzie, but I think you’ll be fine
I had no idea who she was, so looked her up. Seems like she had a lot of success early on and now is facing some pressure from her publisher to stay with a simpler style because that's what they find marketable. Not sure which is sadder, that she feels like she needs to grow as a poet and can't, or that so many people really think that her work is good poetry. It's a shame really, because she could use her platform to educate others about how to grow as an artist -- she could do a lot for the world of poetry that way, and inspire others to aspire.
Is this what people mean when they refer to "Instagram Poetry?" Her work? 99.9% of the time I don't regret ignoring social media, but every once in a while...
I mustn't think about it too much, or I will end up in "Bitter Failure" territory...
I suppose it's strange to think about giving up writing because of ChatGPT. Nobody gives up on chess because they'll never beat Stockfish or AlphaZero.
My humble opinion is, AI, by definition can only be influenced, never actually inspired. It is plagiaristic by nature. Matter of fact we should probably look into incorporating it into our plagiarism policy. Not that anyone here so far has been anything less than transparent, but the subject seems to be coming up more and more frequently. It's an important subject so I would never suggest we pretend it doesn't exist. I think the old anagram poems were a precursor to this and we maybe never stopped to think about their validity because they were fun and seemingly harmless. Do we need a separate forum for this?
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Lizzie dateline='[url=tel:1696211455' Wrote: 1696211455[/url]']
Fearful Symmetry dateline='[url=tel:1696118075' Wrote: 1696118075[/url]']
Lizzie dateline='[url=tel:1696113298' Wrote: 1696113298[/url]']
I feel sick to my stomach thinking about all of this
Rupi Kaur should be worried, Lizzie, but I think you’ll be fine
Is this what people mean when they refer to "Instagram Poetry?" Her work?
I suppose it's strange to think about giving up writing because of ChatGPT. Nobody gives up on chess because they'll never beat Stockfish or AlphaZero.
Yeah, they mean her work, and others in the same vein.
Funny, I was thinking the same thing about chess 
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Lizzie dateline='[url=tel:1696211455' Wrote: 1696211455[/url]']
Fearful Symmetry dateline='[url=tel:1696118075' Wrote: 1696118075[/url]']
Lizzie dateline='[url=tel:1696113298' Wrote: 1696113298[/url]']
I feel sick to my stomach thinking about all of this
Rupi Kaur should be worried, Lizzie, but I think you’ll be fine
I had no idea who she was, so looked her up. Seems like she had a lot of success early on and now is facing some pressure from her publisher to stay with a simpler style because that's what they find marketable. Not sure which is sadder, that she feels like she needs to grow as a poet and can't, or that so many people really think that her work is good poetry. It's a shame really, because she could use her platform to educate others about how to grow as an artist -- she could do a lot for the world of poetry that way, and inspire others to aspire.
Is this what people mean when they refer to "Instagram Poetry?" Her work? 99.9% of the time I don't regret ignoring social media, but every once in a while...
I mustn't think about it too much, or I will end up in "Bitter Failure" territory...
I suppose it's strange to think about giving up writing because of ChatGPT. Nobody gives up on chess because they'll never beat Stockfish or AlphaZero.
Rupi Kaur remains an internet phenomenon without parallel
She had 2 million followers on Instagram. Probably because in 2015, it was still early days for influencers.
A tiff with Instagram and something about feminism (these were the metoo days) made her a viral sensation (looked up Wikipedia).
Once famous, her garbage debut book of poems started appearing in every bookshop, propped up by an arm of Simon & Schuster. It was a push driven success.
You couldn’t escape her damned book anywhere.
And that’s all there was to it.
I once read a book of Jim Morrison’s poems. They too, were garbage, but JM was a fine musician and singer. As far as songs go, his were classics.
Tomorrow, any Instagram star can release a book of poems and have an American publishing house market the shit out of it.
Insofar as the Anglosphere goes, we’re living in a world where reality is shaped by a handful of marketing executives in the States. Our tastes are at the whims of some doltish marketing MBA. Our opinions are forged in the fire of US domestic politics and gun-god religiosity.
To address this wrong, I shall eschew the English language until further notice
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Good idea. Klingon poetry is the future.
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(10-01-2023, 07:11 AM)Tiger the Lion Wrote: This came up on my social media.
https://buttonpoetry.com/policies/?fbcli...H7Y2mIk9Mc
To your question of should there be a policy about AI use here, I would feel better if we did. You could argue it either way, I suppose -- ultimately good poetry reflects well on the site however it's produced. Yet, I feel like the purpose of the site is to teach humans to be better poets. I don't think I would feel duped or used if someone put AI poetry in a workshop because you can technically critique anything. But, I think it might be problematic if those poems were getting special recognition somehow or if someone was bragging while lying.
As to this issue of putting another poet's work into the program to teach it to write like an individual person....I guess I don't understand fully all of the risks yet. It seems risky enough for individual authors that there are lawsuits and such. If you want to look at it through a dark lens (and I always do), you could say that presses are issuing these statements because they now distrust their authors and don't want them drinking at the beach when they're supposed to be writing.
At the end of the day, I'll admit that I want an official AI policy here because I don't wish to think about it further. I wish to write and critique in peace while the technophiles figure it out.
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This came up on my social media.
https://buttonpoetry.com/policies/?fbcli...H7Y2mIk9Mc
I’ll be glad for Button Books to totter down the path of bankruptcy, the degenerate luddites
Anyone who’s against AI in poetry is an enemy of progress, of the people. A friend of Putin’s, keeping the west ignorant.
Button’s claim that AI is stolen from copyrighted material is simply untrue. The models are trained on them, no different than a human learning how poetry gets written by reading poems.
Down with the running down of the human race! Up, the superman!!
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When I write a rhyming poem, I often use rhymezone to help find rhmyes.
I often use a thesaurus, or if I'm looking for something specific to use in a poem (i.e name of a pirate ship etc) I might use google to help find something interesting.
I wrote a poem in March called 'Artificial' where every line is the name of a song that was in the rotation of songs I was listening to at the time. I made the title Artificial because I wrote it using the kind of formula I thought AI might use to make something (and it fit the poem as well).
I think it could be interesting if poets have the ability to use artificial intelligence to help them write poems, in a similar way to how most people don't think using a thesaurus is 'cheating'.
That being said, I don't like the idea of AI poetry. It is only formula, no expression or feeling, and I would prefer to consume less 'perfect' art produced by a human than something brilliant made by a machine.
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#aicouldntwritethis
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Something I came across that might interest you guys. There are hundreds of these on YT. An AI Sinatra singing Nirvana etc.
This one struck me because while you can replicate a voice (and I'm sure they'll get better very soon) you cannot replicate artistry.
As a musician with a Liverpool background and a pretty thorough knowledge of the Beatles, I can tell you 100% that this is not how John would have interpreted or sang the song. What's worse is that accepted copyrights are out the window. Do really want to hear Buddy Holly sing "American Pie?"
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