it's the first time it happens for the third time that pisses me off

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(12-03-2014, 03:49 PM)just mercedes Wrote:  I'm sick of things that always happen for the first time.

QFT

There have been enough firsts in life.  There is comfort in familiarity.

       the first time
       you were all thumbs      
       but towards the last
       you fixed them quickly
       to those crosses      
       while i just sat here
       wondering how much it hurt
       and it was only later
       long after they were dead
       that you began
       to fill their mouths with words

^^ dammit ray. You spew things as comments that are better than most my poetry.

(12-08-2014, 03:38 AM)bena Wrote:  ^^ dammit ray.  You spew things as comments that are better than most my poetry.

what she said

Reading this makes me terrified to put up the poem I wrote

(03-26-2015, 07:55 PM)SaddestStates Wrote:  Reading this makes me terrified to put up the poem I wrote

Don't be sad, If you are interested in improving you need a piece to work on. If you thought it was perfect you wouldn't be joining a workshop. Check your spelling and punctuation, make it the best you can by yourself, then post it in Novice. Listen to what people have to say and decide whether any suggestions would help it. All that's required here is to be open to and to give honest critique.

It becomes less scary with time, and definitely, for me, worth it. If you have fun playing with words this site can be a great playground.
Welcome.

(03-26-2015, 07:55 PM)SaddestStates Wrote:  Reading this makes me terrified to put up the poem I wrote

Well of course you are, who wouldn't be: a mere acolyte poet coming before such an august body of very senior poets who have years of learning poetry under their collective belts, to the point that their authority is gospel. Well it would be if that were so and these august poets weren't a bunch of lunkheads  Regardless, fear is rarely a good justification for doing or not doing something. I would however recommend posting in novice first, posting in serious seems a bit like jumping in the shark tank when your new and have yet to grow a thick skin. It seems no worthwhile growth is totally painless, but that is the process of growing skin and the process of becoming a better poet

Welcome to the site 

Dale

(03-30-2015, 03:35 AM)Erthona Wrote:  

(03-26-2015, 07:55 PM)SaddestStates Wrote:  Reading this makes me terrified to put up the poem I wrote

Well of course you are, who wouldn't be: a mere acolyte poet coming before such an august body of very senior poets who have years of learning poetry under their collective belts, to the point that their authority is gospel. Well it would be if that were so and these august poets weren't a bunch of lunkheads  Regardless, fear is rarely a good justification for doing or not doing something. I would however recommend posting in novice first, posting in serious seems a bit like jumping in the shark tank when your new and have yet to grow a thick skin. It seems no worthwhile growth is totally painless, but that is the process of growing skin and the process of becoming a better poet

Welcome to the site 

Dale

fear is a good enough reason to run from zombies.
but I think I may have covered that in the other thread.
Welcome to the site whoever you may be.
May your fear someday save you from zombies.

reading this makes me terrified of reading it

(03-26-2015, 07:55 PM)SaddestStates Wrote:  Reading this makes me terrified to put up the poem I wrote

(04-05-2013, 10:42 AM)billy Wrote:  there are more, 6th could be

thinking you written a great poem...the odds are you haven't

The cool thing about poetry is that everyone can interpret poems in their own way.  A "great poem" is different in the eyes of so many people.  What makes a "great" poem in my opinion, is one that triggers some sort of emotion within YOU, (the writer)...which can often by misinterpreted by others.  So, when you think you've written a great poem....the odds are, you HAVE. 

Actually, the odds are more likely that you don't know enough about what you're doing to judge whether it's good or not, so you just go with what your ego tells you. That's lovely. It means you never have to actually practise anything, because you're already too amazing for words.

(10-29-2015, 11:43 AM)gracekent16 Wrote:  

(04-05-2013, 10:42 AM)billy Wrote:  there are more, 6th could be

thinking you written a great poem...the odds are you haven't

The cool thing about poetry is that everyone can interpret poems in their own way.  A "great poem" is different in the eyes of so many people.  What makes a "great" poem in my opinion, is one that triggers some sort of emotion within YOU, (the writer)...which can often by misinterpreted by others.  So, when you think you've written a great poem....the odds are, you HAVE. 

Here's a two-step technique to avoid undue effort, to prevent being bothered by boring mistakes,
to confidently write a great poem every time, and to never suffer the indignation of being misinterpreted:

1. Never let anyone else read your poetry.
2. Never read any of your own that's more than a day old.

I practiced this technique for many years with excellent results.
But alas, it requires discipline. I was weak, neglected its practice, and was cast from Eden.

"Beware the tree of knowledge; while it bears sweet fruit, eating it usually proves pretty fucking disastrous." - Suomy Nona

a very common mistake newbie poets commit is to talk bullshit about their works, what they were aiming for, how they used cliche on purpose because we all understand cliche, why they think inverted syntax is a boon to their work. and basically what a wanker everyone else is

i know this for a fact...i was that newbie.

(11-14-2015, 12:50 PM)billy Wrote:  a very common mistake newbie poets commit is to talk bullshit about their works, what they were aiming for, how they used cliche on purpose because we all undestand cliche, why the think iverted syntax is a boon to their work. and basically what a wanker everyone else is

i know this for a fact...i was that newbie.

And you've managed, even after all these years, to retain the charmingly fragrant part of your newbie essence.

Wanker Ray

i look on it as an art form connected to the sport of poetry

(11-14-2015, 01:50 PM)billy Wrote:  i look on it as an art form connected to the sport of poetry

you left out the "f"

It looks like meaningless poetry is my cause to take up here