<![CDATA[Poetry Forum - General Discussion and Polls]]> https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/ Mon, 01 Jun 2026 19:23:29 +0000 MyBB <![CDATA[Trump is a god]]> https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-27390.html Wed, 20 May 2026 22:23:40 +0000 busker]]> https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-27390.html Not Hitler, nor Churchill, we don’t know about Stalin but clearly a lot of people loved him so maybe that’s a close one - likewise, Mao and Putin. And he’s also steered the ship well enough. The groundwork was laid by the great Joe Biden, but Trump has managed to keep the markets pumping. And he’s also made himself rich in the process, because what use is a leader who can’t look after himself?

He’s even cheated death thrice. Hitler just once, Jesus never. Actually, make that four times because he had a close shave with Vietnam.

Entirely unironically. Trump is the greatest leader to ever exist. Mohammed was also a great leader, but he led a hard and austere life in comparison. 

A hundred years from now, they’ll have named half the things in America after him. If you wanted to live during Trajan’s rule, now’s the chance to do better and move there by any means necessary.]]> Not Hitler, nor Churchill, we don’t know about Stalin but clearly a lot of people loved him so maybe that’s a close one - likewise, Mao and Putin. And he’s also steered the ship well enough. The groundwork was laid by the great Joe Biden, but Trump has managed to keep the markets pumping. And he’s also made himself rich in the process, because what use is a leader who can’t look after himself?

He’s even cheated death thrice. Hitler just once, Jesus never. Actually, make that four times because he had a close shave with Vietnam.

Entirely unironically. Trump is the greatest leader to ever exist. Mohammed was also a great leader, but he led a hard and austere life in comparison. 

A hundred years from now, they’ll have named half the things in America after him. If you wanted to live during Trajan’s rule, now’s the chance to do better and move there by any means necessary.]]> <![CDATA[Great and Terrible things]]> https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-27386.html Tue, 19 May 2026 18:23:40 +0000 rayheinrich]]> https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-27386.html ]]> ]]> <![CDATA[Should humour be banned?]]> https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-27367.html Sun, 10 May 2026 22:03:06 +0000 busker]]> https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-27367.html Both races are industrious, while the English have been failing since the first quarter of the twentieth century, when literacy became widespread. Because people started spending too much time thinking of the perfect repartee to actually stoke the boilers and send their children down the mines.

The Americans have no sense of humour, and are hard working to a fault, like Trump, who tweets at all hours of the day. And they have been rewarded for it with oil in Texas and Canada. 

So in order to preserve civilisation, nothing funny should be allowed, on pain of death, also known as a Walmart loaf.]]> Both races are industrious, while the English have been failing since the first quarter of the twentieth century, when literacy became widespread. Because people started spending too much time thinking of the perfect repartee to actually stoke the boilers and send their children down the mines.

The Americans have no sense of humour, and are hard working to a fault, like Trump, who tweets at all hours of the day. And they have been rewarded for it with oil in Texas and Canada. 

So in order to preserve civilisation, nothing funny should be allowed, on pain of death, also known as a Walmart loaf.]]> <![CDATA[Where's the female view and does it matter?]]> https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-27361.html Sat, 09 May 2026 12:55:21 +0000 wasellajam]]> https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-27361.html
I don't think this is an issue in our workshops, it certainly isn't for me. A writer, a reader, a critic here each comes from their own experience and to me the workshops are, as they have always been, a collection of voices focused on the poem.

But I was wondering about it so, as usual, I vented to milo privately and, as usual, he provided a thought provoking response. So with permission:

milo Wrote:
wasellajam Wrote:(*snipped chitchat*) I was reading the film thread and thought This is so male weighted, I hope some women post. Then I realized oh shit, that would be me lol. I don't know why that is or what to do about it. Any thoughts on this?

Yah - it isn't just here, it is most online communities (although the absence is felt much more on a poetry workshop), men dominate forum posts on almost every subject while women dominate social media posts.

There have been numerous studies around this exact topic and from what I have read over the years:

Men tend to be more involved in discussion of topic while women are more about building communities and connections.

My guess would be that women don't feel as safe on anonymous discussion boards while some men feel too safe.

So I call bullshit on the studies, maybe men are on the surface debating some bullshit point but they seem to me to also remaking connections and are often community minded. And women will engage if they give a shit about the topic.

On milo's guess, it seems to me that an anonymous board would feel safer. Maybe. I'm still thinking about this.

This is not something I've thought about before so my opinions are fluid, I'd love to hear what you all think.]]>
I don't think this is an issue in our workshops, it certainly isn't for me. A writer, a reader, a critic here each comes from their own experience and to me the workshops are, as they have always been, a collection of voices focused on the poem.

But I was wondering about it so, as usual, I vented to milo privately and, as usual, he provided a thought provoking response. So with permission:

milo Wrote:
wasellajam Wrote:(*snipped chitchat*) I was reading the film thread and thought This is so male weighted, I hope some women post. Then I realized oh shit, that would be me lol. I don't know why that is or what to do about it. Any thoughts on this?

Yah - it isn't just here, it is most online communities (although the absence is felt much more on a poetry workshop), men dominate forum posts on almost every subject while women dominate social media posts.

There have been numerous studies around this exact topic and from what I have read over the years:

Men tend to be more involved in discussion of topic while women are more about building communities and connections.

My guess would be that women don't feel as safe on anonymous discussion boards while some men feel too safe.

So I call bullshit on the studies, maybe men are on the surface debating some bullshit point but they seem to me to also remaking connections and are often community minded. And women will engage if they give a shit about the topic.

On milo's guess, it seems to me that an anonymous board would feel safer. Maybe. I'm still thinking about this.

This is not something I've thought about before so my opinions are fluid, I'd love to hear what you all think.]]> <![CDATA[Grumpiness (Poll)]]> https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-27296.html Mon, 13 Apr 2026 11:34:27 +0000 wasellajam]]> https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-27296.html <![CDATA[The Humanities and a University education]]> https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-27232.html Tue, 10 Mar 2026 17:46:17 +0000 busker]]> https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-27232.html The proliferation of finance and white collar service jobs meant over the last 50 years meant that you could study for a humanities degree and get a job in consulting if you were intelligent. This was particularly the case in Britain and Europe more generally, but also to a lesser extent in America.

What is the future of non-STEM fields? It's a duller world without them

https://www.businessinsider.com/recent-c...job-2026-3]]> The proliferation of finance and white collar service jobs meant over the last 50 years meant that you could study for a humanities degree and get a job in consulting if you were intelligent. This was particularly the case in Britain and Europe more generally, but also to a lesser extent in America.

What is the future of non-STEM fields? It's a duller world without them

https://www.businessinsider.com/recent-c...job-2026-3]]> <![CDATA[EVs]]> https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-27230.html Tue, 10 Mar 2026 15:49:50 +0000 busker]]> https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-27230.html
I didn’t buy an EV 3 years ago because of limited infrastructure 
My next car will be an EV. Excellent value for money in the Chinese brands.]]>
I didn’t buy an EV 3 years ago because of limited infrastructure 
My next car will be an EV. Excellent value for money in the Chinese brands.]]> <![CDATA[Invasion Day and the future]]> https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-27055.html Fri, 23 Jan 2026 20:05:40 +0000 busker]]> https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-27055.html
The settlement of the new world, including Australia as part of that, is 250-300 years old for the most part. 12. That’s outside of the three-generation limit of living memory by quite a bit.

Why does the settlement of the new world need to be celebrated? It’s no different than Hitler celebrating the conquest of Eastern Europe if he’d won the war. 

The focus should be on settling Mars.]]>
The settlement of the new world, including Australia as part of that, is 250-300 years old for the most part. 12. That’s outside of the three-generation limit of living memory by quite a bit.

Why does the settlement of the new world need to be celebrated? It’s no different than Hitler celebrating the conquest of Eastern Europe if he’d won the war. 

The focus should be on settling Mars.]]> <![CDATA[Entirely unironically, is Trump the greatest man in history?]]> https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-27052.html Fri, 23 Jan 2026 11:11:33 +0000 busker]]> https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-27052.html An outsider, no political backing, just by sheer personality. It’s not just about wealth, because Bloomberg got a pasting.
Hillary Clinton had a solid chance and he made her into a comic villain. He destroyed her. 

Once elected, he fulfilled - as much as possible - his election promises
He alienated everyone around him, made enemies of friends, but still came out on top.

Facebook, Twitter banned him. He made Truth Social.

He tried to have his own beer hall putsch on Jan 6, but unlike Hitler he didn’t get thrown in prison but fought and defeated the judges. Then he got re elected.

This is just his politics.

On the personal front, 4 children and multiple wives. Incredible wealth. Top tier good looks as a young man. And one of the tallest presidents ever.

And he survived two assassination attempts

He’s not a loser like Hitler or a Napoleon, but a winner like no other. Even Alexander the Great died young, which is being a loser. Hannibal lost to Scipio. Caesar got stabbed. Shakespeare was bald before 50.

I can’t think of any human who’s achieved success like Donald Trumo. He should be made King.]]> An outsider, no political backing, just by sheer personality. It’s not just about wealth, because Bloomberg got a pasting.
Hillary Clinton had a solid chance and he made her into a comic villain. He destroyed her. 

Once elected, he fulfilled - as much as possible - his election promises
He alienated everyone around him, made enemies of friends, but still came out on top.

Facebook, Twitter banned him. He made Truth Social.

He tried to have his own beer hall putsch on Jan 6, but unlike Hitler he didn’t get thrown in prison but fought and defeated the judges. Then he got re elected.

This is just his politics.

On the personal front, 4 children and multiple wives. Incredible wealth. Top tier good looks as a young man. And one of the tallest presidents ever.

And he survived two assassination attempts

He’s not a loser like Hitler or a Napoleon, but a winner like no other. Even Alexander the Great died young, which is being a loser. Hannibal lost to Scipio. Caesar got stabbed. Shakespeare was bald before 50.

I can’t think of any human who’s achieved success like Donald Trumo. He should be made King.]]> <![CDATA[Why Trump is Jesus]]> https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-27050.html Thu, 22 Jan 2026 19:51:02 +0000 busker]]> https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-27050.html Why Trump is Jesus come again

He was born a king, well - rich enough 

He never served in the military.

He apprenticed with his father, who was in the construction business. A builder. Tekton.

He doesn’t speak Greek, only his native tongue

Jesus was unmarried in his first coming. As Trump, he’s now making up for it

He accused black youths of rape. Jesus defended a woman accused of adultery.

He said the press made up fake news. Jesus accused the Pharisees and saducees of making stuff up 

A disease killed off the old in his time. A king killed babies in Jesus’s time, according to tradition.

He rose from the dead after his first term

He was put on trial by his enemies 

They tried to kill him, but unlike Jesus in his first avatar, Trump survived

Judas betrayed Jesus. Many tried to betray Trump, including Musk.

Jesus promised to rebuild the temple. Trump rebuilt a part of the White House.

Jesus threw out the moneylenders. Trump wants to upturn the banking system by promoting crypto 

The messiah would end all wars. Trump has already ended all wars.

Jesus went to heaven. Trump went to Epstein’s island.]]> Why Trump is Jesus come again

He was born a king, well - rich enough 

He never served in the military.

He apprenticed with his father, who was in the construction business. A builder. Tekton.

He doesn’t speak Greek, only his native tongue

Jesus was unmarried in his first coming. As Trump, he’s now making up for it

He accused black youths of rape. Jesus defended a woman accused of adultery.

He said the press made up fake news. Jesus accused the Pharisees and saducees of making stuff up 

A disease killed off the old in his time. A king killed babies in Jesus’s time, according to tradition.

He rose from the dead after his first term

He was put on trial by his enemies 

They tried to kill him, but unlike Jesus in his first avatar, Trump survived

Judas betrayed Jesus. Many tried to betray Trump, including Musk.

Jesus promised to rebuild the temple. Trump rebuilt a part of the White House.

Jesus threw out the moneylenders. Trump wants to upturn the banking system by promoting crypto 

The messiah would end all wars. Trump has already ended all wars.

Jesus went to heaven. Trump went to Epstein’s island.]]> <![CDATA[The solution to urban sprawl]]> https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-26998.html Fri, 16 Jan 2026 22:04:45 +0000 busker]]> https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-26998.html One of the benefits is that - and this is my rational dictator dream - you can live in tall buildings surrounded by hundreds of square kilometres of greenery. Basically, live in a forest - by cutting out all of that urban sprawl.

To the extent that seeing a tiger on a morning walk would become common

Genetically modified vegetarian who clean up after themselves and use the toilet 

Or a brachiosaurus 

Where would you rather live?]]> One of the benefits is that - and this is my rational dictator dream - you can live in tall buildings surrounded by hundreds of square kilometres of greenery. Basically, live in a forest - by cutting out all of that urban sprawl.

To the extent that seeing a tiger on a morning walk would become common

Genetically modified vegetarian who clean up after themselves and use the toilet 

Or a brachiosaurus 

Where would you rather live?]]> <![CDATA[The PigPen's Resplendent Kaffeeklatsch]]> https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-26950.html Mon, 05 Jan 2026 15:26:45 +0000 milo]]> https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-26950.html
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Blush ]]> <![CDATA[Are we done with the Greeks?]]> https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-26943.html Sun, 04 Jan 2026 15:34:41 +0000 milo]]> https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-26943.html
Can we please have just one more poem about Greek myths?
There are some modern poets who continue to draw “inspiration” from the Greek Myths, as though the 19th, 18th, 17th, 16th and 15th centuries never happened. They do, honestly, think they have something new and original to add, but Greek Mythology is truly the Hydra of modern poetry. All the pathos and vigor has long since been drained out of them. Allusions, let alone whole poems devoted to the myths,  are as appealing, to me, as stale lettuce. - uncredited

What are your feeling on this?  When you read another poem about Greek Mythology, do you roll your eyes and move on?  Do you incorporate Greek mythos into your own writing?

Thanks]]>
Can we please have just one more poem about Greek myths?
There are some modern poets who continue to draw “inspiration” from the Greek Myths, as though the 19th, 18th, 17th, 16th and 15th centuries never happened. They do, honestly, think they have something new and original to add, but Greek Mythology is truly the Hydra of modern poetry. All the pathos and vigor has long since been drained out of them. Allusions, let alone whole poems devoted to the myths,  are as appealing, to me, as stale lettuce. - uncredited

What are your feeling on this?  When you read another poem about Greek Mythology, do you roll your eyes and move on?  Do you incorporate Greek mythos into your own writing?

Thanks]]> <![CDATA[Happy New Year PP fam!!!]]> https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-26930.html Thu, 01 Jan 2026 06:07:35 +0000 milo]]> https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-26930.html ]]> ]]> <![CDATA[user titles]]> https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-26921.html Tue, 30 Dec 2025 22:32:18 +0000 milo]]> https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-26921.html
(mines is mmmmm, brandy)

I remember a few years back we all just started giving each other titles

It was usually done with fondness, just a kind of meta game we played

I /know/ I got mine from ellajam after I visited her once and we shared brandy.

I know I named ellajam as well (it was one of the first)

I believe I also named quix as it is the typ of name I would give

Part of the fun is we wouldn't really tell someone where their title came from.

Does anybody here remember where they got their title from or why?

Is their a cool story to it?

cheers
also, if you are not sure or if you want me to guess, I am willing to bet dollars to donuts that I could guess]]>
(mines is mmmmm, brandy)

I remember a few years back we all just started giving each other titles

It was usually done with fondness, just a kind of meta game we played

I /know/ I got mine from ellajam after I visited her once and we shared brandy.

I know I named ellajam as well (it was one of the first)

I believe I also named quix as it is the typ of name I would give

Part of the fun is we wouldn't really tell someone where their title came from.

Does anybody here remember where they got their title from or why?

Is their a cool story to it?

cheers
also, if you are not sure or if you want me to guess, I am willing to bet dollars to donuts that I could guess]]>