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		<title><![CDATA[Poetry Forum - Info, Suggestions, Poetic Devices, Help]]></title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 10:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Handwriting vs revisions]]></title>
			<link>https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-27167.html</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2026 20:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=9556">jonvandalen</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Just curious how you who draft and revise on paper are formatting and spacing your poetry on the page, and if there are any good practices to know about for revising and inserting words into an existing handwritten poem.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Just curious how you who draft and revise on paper are formatting and spacing your poetry on the page, and if there are any good practices to know about for revising and inserting words into an existing handwritten poem.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[TikTok]]></title>
			<link>https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-27149.html</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2026 00:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=7315">milo</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[So, I was doomscrolling on TikTok today and some guy makes a post about poetry and about his favorite love poem for Valentine's Day and why  and - TBH - he seemed pretty clever.  Like someone i wouldn't mind hanging around here posting clever stuff.  Now I disagreed with him (no surprise, i disagree with a lot of people) but that doesn't really change anything.<br />
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We made a couple comments back and forth and I dropped a link to <a href="http://WWW.PigPenPoetry.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">WWW.PigPenPoetry.com</a>.<br />
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My point?  I think we should all drop a couple links on TikTok - there are a a LOT of people over there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[So, I was doomscrolling on TikTok today and some guy makes a post about poetry and about his favorite love poem for Valentine's Day and why  and - TBH - he seemed pretty clever.  Like someone i wouldn't mind hanging around here posting clever stuff.  Now I disagreed with him (no surprise, i disagree with a lot of people) but that doesn't really change anything.<br />
<br />
We made a couple comments back and forth and I dropped a link to <a href="http://WWW.PigPenPoetry.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">WWW.PigPenPoetry.com</a>.<br />
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My point?  I think we should all drop a couple links on TikTok - there are a a LOT of people over there.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[A post proposing a coffee lounge - not an actual  coffee lounge]]></title>
			<link>https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-26926.html</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2025 14:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=7315">milo</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Many years ago I made the suggestion of adding a coffee lounge to the site<br />
<br />
Just a place for members to prattle on about their days or converse with other poets.<br />
<br />
While there probably isn't much point now as most have either died or left I would like to bring it up again<br />
and not just because it was voted down but as a point of discussion amongst whoever is left:<br />
<br />
Both billy and leanne were against it (I can't remember what Todd's position was)<br />
<br />
The arguments against it: <br />
<ul class="mycode_list"><li>it would suffer from trollery and tomfoolery and be too much work for the mods<br />
</li>
<li>We already have areas for member discussion<br />
</li>
<li>We have the sewer and the Pig's arse as unmoderated prattle<br />
</li>
</ul>
<br />
there may have been more but I don't remember.<br />
<br />
My counter arguments were:<br />
<ul class="mycode_list"><li>no argument here, there might be some trollery or tomfoolery, I was willing to take on the extra work if necessary<br />
</li>
<li>The areas for discussion seem targeted around topics and sometimes members just want to socialize with others with similar interests<br />
</li>
<li>Both the sewer and the pig's arse have some negative connotations as a free for all and wouldn't actually fill the spot.<br />
</li>
</ul>
<br />
What are your thoughts?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Many years ago I made the suggestion of adding a coffee lounge to the site<br />
<br />
Just a place for members to prattle on about their days or converse with other poets.<br />
<br />
While there probably isn't much point now as most have either died or left I would like to bring it up again<br />
and not just because it was voted down but as a point of discussion amongst whoever is left:<br />
<br />
Both billy and leanne were against it (I can't remember what Todd's position was)<br />
<br />
The arguments against it: <br />
<ul class="mycode_list"><li>it would suffer from trollery and tomfoolery and be too much work for the mods<br />
</li>
<li>We already have areas for member discussion<br />
</li>
<li>We have the sewer and the Pig's arse as unmoderated prattle<br />
</li>
</ul>
<br />
there may have been more but I don't remember.<br />
<br />
My counter arguments were:<br />
<ul class="mycode_list"><li>no argument here, there might be some trollery or tomfoolery, I was willing to take on the extra work if necessary<br />
</li>
<li>The areas for discussion seem targeted around topics and sometimes members just want to socialize with others with similar interests<br />
</li>
<li>Both the sewer and the pig's arse have some negative connotations as a free for all and wouldn't actually fill the spot.<br />
</li>
</ul>
<br />
What are your thoughts?]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Dead link]]></title>
			<link>https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-26918.html</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2025 15:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=7315">milo</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[The link on the right pointing to Leanne's old website is dead (unironically).  Not sure if there is an updated repository or maybe we want it to point to her books available on Amazon but dead links don't help anyone<br />
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Thanks]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[The link on the right pointing to Leanne's old website is dead (unironically).  Not sure if there is an updated repository or maybe we want it to point to her books available on Amazon but dead links don't help anyone<br />
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Thanks]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Advisory for Dec 29 (just in case)]]></title>
			<link>https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-26140.html</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Dec 2024 09:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=22">addy</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi folks, just letting everyone know in advance in case this becomes relevant:  <br />
<br />
I'll be renewing something for the site on Dec 29. I've been assured by the webhost that it shouldnt cause any disruptions to the forum, but on the off chance it does that would be the reason why. Rest assured that if the Pen does experience any disruption the 29th, it shouldn't be down for long.<br />
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Thanks all, and Happy Holidays!  <img src="https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/images/smilies/pigpenpoetry_smiley_thumbs_up.gif" alt="Thumbsup" title="Thumbsup" class="smilie smilie_153" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi folks, just letting everyone know in advance in case this becomes relevant:  <br />
<br />
I'll be renewing something for the site on Dec 29. I've been assured by the webhost that it shouldnt cause any disruptions to the forum, but on the off chance it does that would be the reason why. Rest assured that if the Pen does experience any disruption the 29th, it shouldn't be down for long.<br />
<br />
Thanks all, and Happy Holidays!  <img src="https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/images/smilies/pigpenpoetry_smiley_thumbs_up.gif" alt="Thumbsup" title="Thumbsup" class="smilie smilie_153" />]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Saving]]></title>
			<link>https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-26070.html</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 19 Nov 2024 20:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=9189">Gerryswo</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[How do you save poem you want to critique for future access?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[How do you save poem you want to critique for future access?]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Sorry for that folks]]></title>
			<link>https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-26047.html</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 09 Nov 2024 09:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=22">addy</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[For all those who had trouble and are still having trouble loading the forum yesterday/today I am very sorry -- the site DNS got disconnected. Its been restored but supposedly itll take a few hours for the changes to take effect across the board. People may also need to clear their cache (though if you are currently accessing the site and seeing this post withoutany trouble thats probably not necessary)<br />
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I'm very sorry for all the inconvenience. Will work to get things back ASAP]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[For all those who had trouble and are still having trouble loading the forum yesterday/today I am very sorry -- the site DNS got disconnected. Its been restored but supposedly itll take a few hours for the changes to take effect across the board. People may also need to clear their cache (though if you are currently accessing the site and seeing this post withoutany trouble thats probably not necessary)<br />
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I'm very sorry for all the inconvenience. Will work to get things back ASAP]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[posts in haiku, short poetry forum]]></title>
			<link>https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-25969.html</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2024 13:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=2310">Magpie</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Just a thought and question.<br />
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Why don't posts in the 'haiku, short poetry forum' not count towards your actual posts? I know it changed from back in the old day when every post counted but then it changed to just the critique forums, which is fair enough, I understand the reasoning. The short poetry forum is still a critique forum and I have received some excellent critiques there and spent a bit time giving critiques.<br />
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I'm not looking to increase my post count, but back in the day it didn't seem to make much sense and I never asked why. <br />
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It's just a thought I've had now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Just a thought and question.<br />
<br />
Why don't posts in the 'haiku, short poetry forum' not count towards your actual posts? I know it changed from back in the old day when every post counted but then it changed to just the critique forums, which is fair enough, I understand the reasoning. The short poetry forum is still a critique forum and I have received some excellent critiques there and spent a bit time giving critiques.<br />
<br />
I'm not looking to increase my post count, but back in the day it didn't seem to make much sense and I never asked why. <br />
<br />
It's just a thought I've had now.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[TranquilityBase]]></title>
			<link>https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-25761.html</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2024 21:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=7313">Quixilated</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[I just found out that TranqulityBase (Tim Prather) passed away in May.  Tim was a beloved member and moderator, a talented poet, and a patient and encouraging mentor to many.  He will be sorely missed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I just found out that TranqulityBase (Tim Prather) passed away in May.  Tim was a beloved member and moderator, a talented poet, and a patient and encouraging mentor to many.  He will be sorely missed.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Site Maintenance Shutdown]]></title>
			<link>https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-25486.html</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2024 09:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=22">addy</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi everyone, PSA in a few hours the site will temporarily go down while I do a mybb update and attempt a few fixes on the site. You may or may not need to refresh your site cookies once the forum's back online. Thanks!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi everyone, PSA in a few hours the site will temporarily go down while I do a mybb update and attempt a few fixes on the site. You may or may not need to refresh your site cookies once the forum's back online. Thanks!]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Site Maintenance Shutdown -- please read]]></title>
			<link>https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-25302.html</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2023 00:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=22">addy</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi folks, the forum will be down temporarily sometime in the next few hours so I can do some long overdue MyBB updates. <br />
<br />
They've been piling up for a while <img src="https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/images/smilies/blush.gif" alt="Blush" title="Blush" class="smilie smilie_12" /> so they'll have to be done in batches. I'll limit it to a couple of hours each day at off peak times, to minimize disruption for members. So if you drop by Pig Pen in the next few days and happen to find the site temporarily unavailable, that's gonna be why.<br />
<br />
Thank you very much for your accommodation and patience]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi folks, the forum will be down temporarily sometime in the next few hours so I can do some long overdue MyBB updates. <br />
<br />
They've been piling up for a while <img src="https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/images/smilies/blush.gif" alt="Blush" title="Blush" class="smilie smilie_12" /> so they'll have to be done in batches. I'll limit it to a couple of hours each day at off peak times, to minimize disruption for members. So if you drop by Pig Pen in the next few days and happen to find the site temporarily unavailable, that's gonna be why.<br />
<br />
Thank you very much for your accommodation and patience]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[New Moderator]]></title>
			<link>https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-25142.html</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2023 23:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=7313">Quixilated</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hello wonderful members of the Pigpen, TranqulityBase was lured into the forest with promises of gingerbread and has fallen into a purple trap.  Please welcome our newest moderator.   <img src="https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" alt="Big Grin" title="Big Grin" class="smilie smilie_4" /><br />
<br />
TQB, we are thrilled to have you on board!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hello wonderful members of the Pigpen, TranqulityBase was lured into the forest with promises of gingerbread and has fallen into a purple trap.  Please welcome our newest moderator.   <img src="https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" alt="Big Grin" title="Big Grin" class="smilie smilie_4" /><br />
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TQB, we are thrilled to have you on board!]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[new moderator]]></title>
			<link>https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-25087.html</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2023 19:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=7313">Quixilated</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Please give your <span style="text-decoration: line-through;" class="mycode_s">condolences</span> congratulations to our newest <span style="text-decoration: line-through;" class="mycode_s">prisoner</span> team member: Busker! <br />
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Busker has graciously agreed to manage our Spotlighting the Hogs forum.  If you have a favorite poem (on this site, by a member), you can give your recommendation to Busker.  (If you don’t see your recommendation posted, don’t take it out on him, the mods all vote on what goes in). <br />
<br />
(If you have other moderation needs, please continue to send those requests to Quixilated, Tiger the Lion, and/or CRNDLSM.) <br />
<br />
Thank you, Busker, for helping us out!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Please give your <span style="text-decoration: line-through;" class="mycode_s">condolences</span> congratulations to our newest <span style="text-decoration: line-through;" class="mycode_s">prisoner</span> team member: Busker! <br />
<br />
Busker has graciously agreed to manage our Spotlighting the Hogs forum.  If you have a favorite poem (on this site, by a member), you can give your recommendation to Busker.  (If you don’t see your recommendation posted, don’t take it out on him, the mods all vote on what goes in). <br />
<br />
(If you have other moderation needs, please continue to send those requests to Quixilated, Tiger the Lion, and/or CRNDLSM.) <br />
<br />
Thank you, Busker, for helping us out!]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Attn: the report button]]></title>
			<link>https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-25065.html</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2023 14:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=7313">Quixilated</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hello pigpen members, <br />
<br />
It has come to our attention that the ‘report post’ option has not been alerting us to new reports for quite some time. When we checked out the report center, there were several unanswered reports.  We have dealt with anything that seemed to still be relevant.  We would like to formally and humbly apologize that your reports were not answered in a timely manner. Going forward, we will be more vigilant about checking the report center, as the report alert bar is currently malfunctioning. <br />
<br />
For the time being, it might be quicker/more reliable to alert us via pm if you have poems that need to be moved/deleted, or if a post is breaking rules, etc.  I promise that we are always willing and happy to help no matter what the problem is.  If you aren’t sure which of us will be online soonest, you can even send a group pm to all of us and the first one here will take care of it.  <br />
<br />
Again, please accept our sincerest apology for this oversight.  <br />
<br />
Humbly, <br />
—The Mod team]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hello pigpen members, <br />
<br />
It has come to our attention that the ‘report post’ option has not been alerting us to new reports for quite some time. When we checked out the report center, there were several unanswered reports.  We have dealt with anything that seemed to still be relevant.  We would like to formally and humbly apologize that your reports were not answered in a timely manner. Going forward, we will be more vigilant about checking the report center, as the report alert bar is currently malfunctioning. <br />
<br />
For the time being, it might be quicker/more reliable to alert us via pm if you have poems that need to be moved/deleted, or if a post is breaking rules, etc.  I promise that we are always willing and happy to help no matter what the problem is.  If you aren’t sure which of us will be online soonest, you can even send a group pm to all of us and the first one here will take care of it.  <br />
<br />
Again, please accept our sincerest apology for this oversight.  <br />
<br />
Humbly, <br />
—The Mod team]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Site maintenance update]]></title>
			<link>https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-24351.html</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2022 00:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=22">addy</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hello all, just letting you know that the forum will briefly go down sometime in the next few hours so I can implement some necessary site updates  <img src="https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" title="Smile" class="smilie smilie_1" /><br />
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The site shouldn't be down too long, it should just be a quick update --- and I'll try to time it at an off peak hour so it hopefully causes minimum disruption. Sorry for any inconvenience and thank you very much for your patience  <img src="https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/images/smilies/blush.gif" alt="Blush" title="Blush" class="smilie smilie_12" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hello all, just letting you know that the forum will briefly go down sometime in the next few hours so I can implement some necessary site updates  <img src="https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" title="Smile" class="smilie smilie_1" /><br />
<br />
The site shouldn't be down too long, it should just be a quick update --- and I'll try to time it at an off peak hour so it hopefully causes minimum disruption. Sorry for any inconvenience and thank you very much for your patience  <img src="https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/images/smilies/blush.gif" alt="Blush" title="Blush" class="smilie smilie_12" />]]></content:encoded>
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