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...the reality principle.  All poetry, all science, all relations, all self reflection, anything and everything boils down to that.  This is what we love, we hate, why we struggle and create.  Just that.  The simplest of all things.
Does that mean anything, though?
I mean, should such a realization change anything in me or you, going forward?
Or is it simply attaching a name to something inherently understood?
Further, does that all contrast the Pleasure Principle is invalid?
(05-17-2019, 12:43 PM)UselessBlueprint Wrote: [ -> ]Does that mean anything, though?
I mean, should such a realization change anything in me or you, going forward?
Or is it simply attaching a name to something inherently understood?

Sometimes it's significant to remember this one ineluctable fact.  It guides everything we do, whether we know it or not, or like it or not.

That is all.
(05-17-2019, 12:45 PM)NobodyNothing Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-17-2019, 12:43 PM)UselessBlueprint Wrote: [ -> ]Does that mean anything, though?
I mean, should such a realization change anything in me or you, going forward?
Or is it simply attaching a name to something inherently understood?

Sometimes it's significant to remember this one ineluctable fact.  It guides everything we do, whether we know it or not, or like it or not.

That is all.

What makes it significant?
I'm not much of a subscriber to Freudian psych, or pretty much any psych for that matter. To that end, I still question if it really guides anything we do. I've definitely seen arts that are pleasure driven, and I've met many people who seem to be guided primarily by the so-called pleasure principle. So if anything and everything reduces to the reality principle, does the pleasure principle still exist?

(It's the discussion board. I'll attempt to discuss.)
(05-17-2019, 01:00 PM)UselessBlueprint Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-17-2019, 12:45 PM)NobodyNothing Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-17-2019, 12:43 PM)UselessBlueprint Wrote: [ -> ]Does that mean anything, though?
I mean, should such a realization change anything in me or you, going forward?
Or is it simply attaching a name to something inherently understood?

Sometimes it's significant to remember this one ineluctable fact.  It guides everything we do, whether we know it or not, or like it or not.

That is all.

What makes it significant?
I'm not much of a subscriber to Freudian psych, or pretty much any psych for that matter. To that end, I still question if it really guides anything we do. I've definitely seen arts that are pleasure driven, and I've met many people who seem to be guided primarily by the so-called pleasure principle. So if anything and everything reduces to the reality principle, does the pleasure principle still exist?

(It's the discussion board. I'll attempt to discuss.)

I'm old.  Sometimes you come back to the simplest of all principles.  Objective reality.  No escaping it.  But try and try again we do.  We're pretty remarkable in that way as a species, I must admit.
The only hope is in Ignorance. Sometimes you wish you were dead, and you can be greatful for those moments, because they prove that it's possible not to fear death, and you'll get lucky and be feeling that way when you're dying. Humans don't think they can go extinct because they can think they can't, but they think they can too. You can experience the world, but the world you're experiencing is conditioned by the world you're experiencing and all of it that you're not. Unless our senses are the only senses an animal or plant or other can have, then we're missing something, and we're doing with what we have, and formed a livable situation. Then there's the language. Say something badly and it's less true. Say it good and someone can see where you're coming from. Say it greatly and it's hard to deny. If objective reality has the least crack in it, we'll fall through it. The biggest hole in it is its dependence on experience through sense and language. So for someone who's not interested in objective reality, the

re's only as much use to talk about it as anything else. It seems to me that truth is one of the weakest arguments. It need not be true, or it doesn't matter, or somebody doesn't believe it.

Somebody fix the word grateful. It won't let me.

If everybody only thought about things objectively, it would change the world we experience so drastically that we would be bound to doubt it again, similar to the way we doubt religion now.

You can change any argument by the language used. So I can be wrong within an objective context, and be said to be objectively wrong, no less objective. The art of saying things badly is only objective. Nobody can argue you with it. To maintain an objective world we must write as though we were right badly enough not to be accused of mere poetry or even pure nonsense. Objective reality demands no conditions. It separates no disinctions. It needs nothing, only we know that. And us knowing it is what makes it so hard to believe. It's easier to believe what you don't know. And what you're certain you know is even easier.

It won't let me fix distinctions either. But there is no distinction. Multiple contexts and mediums allow for future mutations in the mind. One day a litte man might pop out and walk around. The typo in this particular medium, this specific technology might make a brainpath wide enough for my own crazed fantasy to be taken seriously by someone out there capable of a little man. Maybe centuries from now.