Phrases to forever expunge from your critiques
#21
You should write this in the shape of the state of texas.
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#22
(09-06-2014, 08:47 AM)Erthona Wrote:  It made my hearty sore...er soar.

One of the best I've read.

It has a soft meaning.

It's depth invigorates me.

It makes me thrill.

I know it must be from your heart as it touches me so much.

dale
Are you sure this wasn't posted to an erotica workshop?
The secret of poetry is cruelty.--Jon Anderson
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#23
Another beauty from the forum today:

"I feel like this has effort put in it , but I don't feel it"
It could be worse
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#24
gems, every last one of them.
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#25

"it reminds me of a famous poem, thats good, really, best dude"

almost terse
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#26
the immortal phrase under the newbs avatar.

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#27
RE: cherry blossoms
(Yesterday 11:58 PM)jaysky Wrote:
I like it. Short but good if extended could be better. Good job


i really wanna start critiquing invalid critique
and paste it as a reply to the offender's newest post
each time they write such dreadful shite on someone else's.

but that's bad and wrong, so i won't.

but i really wanna.
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#28
Report the comments. It makes the mods happy because then we get a heads-up and can ban people even more quickly than we would just searching through stuff on our own... although these ones always seem to come under our radar within a fairly short time anway.

Nothing shits me more than people who think they're fooling us with their blatantly ignorant attempts to get their post count up so they can spam our perfectly pretty boards with their faecal poetasting.
It could be worse
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#29
tec got him/her/it Big Grin

faecal poetasting Hysterical
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#30


" bats those bats slap them down there get that one your poem no bats no bats"


almost terse
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#31
Oh my I've used so many of these
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#32
huh, i don't see what the big problem is with "I liked it", yet i would personally appreciate an exclamation point because that sounds erotic.

I will be sure to tell people to make their poetry in the shape of texas in the future.
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#33

(11-13-2020, 09:34 PM)Socialite Wrote:  huh, i don't see what the big problem is with "I liked it", yet i would personally appreciate an exclamation point because that sounds erotic.

I will be sure to tell people to make their poetry in the shape of texas in the future.

For the integrity of critique, 'i liked it' does more harm than good.  Taken alone it's a very passive statement, shows no emotion or thought really.  What even is 'it'?  What even is 'like'?  At least an exclamation mark shows emotional response, but even though, it doesn't help the critique because what if the writer wants to increase the number of exclamation marks?  He's lost on what or how.

Also concrete poems can be legit, texas could have one I'm sure
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#34
(11-14-2020, 09:45 AM)CRNDLSM Wrote:  
(11-13-2020, 09:34 PM)Socialite Wrote:  huh, i don't see what the big problem is with "I liked it", yet i would personally appreciate an exclamation point because that sounds erotic.

I will be sure to tell people to make their poetry in the shape of texas in the future.

For the integrity of critique, 'i liked it' does more harm than good.  Taken alone it's a very passive statement, shows no emotion or thought really.  What even is 'it'?  What even is 'like'?  At least an exclamation mark shows emotional response, but even though, it doesn't help the critique because what if the writer wants to increase the number of exclamation marks?  He's lost on what or how.

Also concrete poems can be legit, texas could have one I'm sure

to tell you the truth i think vapid compliments don't always ruin the poets ability to write or go to their head, i tend to find all non-descriptive praise to be satisfying yet not very inspiring. "I liked it" is basically like saying "your writing is very good", i personally am fine with all such vague comments as long as they include more than that. My favorite is when someone compliments and insults "my" poetry in the same critique, because they just gave me free advice, not always easy to find.

I do really hate it when on social media just "likes" my post without saying anything...i'm pretty much just sitting there silently for a moment thinking "*COUGH*...WELL?!"
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#35
(11-15-2020, 08:43 PM)Socialite Wrote:  to tell you the truth i think vapid compliments don't always ruin the poets ability to write or go to their head, i tend to find all non-descriptive praise to be satisfying yet not very inspiring. "I liked it" is basically like saying "your writing is very good", i personally am fine with all such vague comments as long as they include more than that. My favorite is when someone compliments and insults "my" poetry in the same critique, because they just gave me free advice, not always easy to find.

I do really hate it when on social media just "likes" my post without saying anything...i'm pretty much just sitting there silently for a moment thinking "*COUGH*...WELL?!"
No one is saying that the author of a poem isn't pleased when someone likes their poetry. The reason why a simple "I like it" is unacceptable on this site is because this is not social media, it is a workshop.  The purpose of this site is not to showcase poetry but to workshop it so that it can be showcased elsewhere.  People are not posting finished poetry here hoping to receive praise, they are posting works-in-progress hoping to receive feedback about the poem so that they can polish it and make it even better.  They want to know what to keep and what to cut, what works and what doesn't.  "I like it" says nothing about the poem.  Critique doesn't have to be negative.  You're allowed to like a poem, but if you like a poem then simply go deeper. Tell the author why you liked it, what parts in particular spoke to you.  Point out a specific word or phrase that spoke to you.  "I like it" is empty praise, and doesn't help the poet workshop the poem in any way.
The Soufflé isn’t the soufflé; the soufflé is the recipe. --Clara 
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#36
(11-15-2020, 10:07 PM)Quixilated Wrote:  
(11-15-2020, 08:43 PM)Socialite Wrote:  to tell you the truth i think vapid compliments don't always ruin the poets ability to write or go to their head, i tend to find all non-descriptive praise to be satisfying yet not very inspiring. "I liked it" is basically like saying "your writing is very good", i personally am fine with all such vague comments as long as they include more than that. My favorite is when someone compliments and insults "my" poetry in the same critique, because they just gave me free advice, not always easy to find.

I do really hate it when on social media just "likes" my post without saying anything...i'm pretty much just sitting there silently for a moment thinking "*COUGH*...WELL?!"

No one is saying that the author of a poem isn't pleased when someone likes their poetry. The reason why a simple "I like it" is unacceptable on this site is because this is not social media, it is a workshop.  The purpose of this site is not to showcase poetry but to workshop it so that it can be showcased elsewhere.  People are not posting finished poetry here hoping to receive praise, they are posting works-in-progress hoping to receive feedback about the poem so that they can polish it and make it even better.  They want to know what to keep and what to cut, what works and what doesn't.  "I like it" says nothing about the poem.  Critique doesn't have to be negative.  You're allowed to like a poem, but if you like a poem then simply go deeper. Tell the author why you liked it, what parts in particular spoke to you.  Point out a specific word or phrase that spoke to you.  "I like it" is empty praise, and doesn't help the poet workshop the poem in any way.

i get it that this forum is a workshop, but that still doesnt mean you can speak for everyone. Since i respect the negative reaction, then i can also question them?

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dumb posts such as mine are poetry!
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#37
Don't question everything. Question anything.
Don't make statements in the form of questions. Women claim to admire that, but innately they feel it's weak.

The rules are only grammar rules. I like it. What? The poem. What poem; the one I wrote, the one you read or the one you critiqued, or commented on, or what? I like the poem, because.
Use the simple sentence structure you were taught, the way people around you talk, the experience poetry is as you vision it. Then type without responsibility or intellect.
Don't ask questions or make statements. At least not humbly and rudely, or one or the other. There are no rules till you break them or bring them up in discussion.
See what happens. Don't be cautious.
That's the esoteric imparting of the rules.
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#38
I think for a workshop forum, where critics often read critiques. 'i liked it' could sway a general opinion to avoid further critique. 'it is finished, if you change it I will no longer like it'
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#39
(11-16-2020, 04:28 AM)CRNDLSM Wrote:  I think for a workshop forum, where critics often read critiques.  'i liked it' could sway a general opinion to avoid further critique.  'it is finished, if you change it I will no longer like it'

yeah, thats pretty much why sometimes i say "the poem is perfect", which can easily lend to what you say. Yet a poem can always be more and more perfect, as perfection does not exist

BUT, i also always believe that opposites can mean the same thing, so if i love a poem, it can be interpereted as "this is trash". Really the authority is in our heads, nothing wrong with that. I love it, to talk about such directionless questions as "what is the proper insult/praise"
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#40
(11-16-2020, 07:47 AM)Socialite Wrote:  
(11-16-2020, 04:28 AM)CRNDLSM Wrote:  I think for a workshop forum, where critics often read critiques.  'i liked it' could sway a general opinion to avoid further critique.  'it is finished, if you change it I will no longer like it'

yeah, thats pretty much why sometimes i say "the poem is perfect", which can easily lend to what you say. Yet a poem can always be more and more perfect, as perfection does not exist

BUT, i also always believe that opposites can mean the same thing, so if i love a poem, it can be interpereted as "this is trash". Really the authority is in our heads, nothing wrong with that. I love it, to talk about such directionless questions as "what is the proper insult/praise"

Like the difference between 'this is the shit' and 'this is shit'
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