writing poetry is so flipping hard
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(01-09-2017, 06:07 AM)Achebe Wrote:  But ultimately, poetry is an art where everyone's the performer and no one's there to buy the tickets. Like running - if you're a keen runner you only care about your own timing. And if you're not a keen runner you couldn't care less about the winner of the Berlin marathon anyway.
Except that running gets you fit and poetry gets you depressed.
For one, what sort of poetry?* There's epic poetry (with which I would lump most of rap), which only a distinguished few of us can really do, and then there's lyric poetry, where I think the bit of everyone's a performer and no one's there to buy the tickets does apply, albeit because those keen to watch are either pirates or voyeurs. Ie, if you're a keen lyric poet, because I'm assume you're leaning more on lyric poetry here, you'd want to be just as clear or pure or just plain watchable as those you've already watched -- or what billy said.
* -- of course my discussion of genres here sorta follows Frye, who in the corresponding essay also defines prose and drama as poetry, with the distinguishing features among the four being their mimetic forms, their rhythms, and their poet-audience relationships, but I think his is a fine rubric for, and this is purely for the sake of armchair discussion, dividing between prose, drama, and poetry, or at least prose and poetry, if you consider, as the old drama-poets did, a lot of the rhythms of both poetry and prose to hold true in speech (which I think they sort of do), so that drama sort of blurs the line. Epic poetry has a recurrent rhythm, it seeks to represent direct action, and its relationship between poet and audience is that between a speaker (a Homer) and a mass audience (a Greece); lyric poetry has a more loopy, associative rhythm, and a more internal set of symbols. Of course, his use of genres doesn't mean all genres are mutually exclusive, and ultimately he goes into greater depth than that, but that would be beyond the scope of how I used it. 
(01-09-2017, 06:07 AM)Achebe Wrote:  I hope Trump and Putin ban poetry.
Trump wouldn't care: the real problem for him is....well, shit, the dude's so oblivious he doesn't have any problems, least of all with Leonard Cohen (that damn Canadian!). And Putin can ban all arts but poetry: he's Russian.
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writing poetry is so flipping hard - by billy - 05-19-2014, 12:01 PM
RE: writing poetry is so flipping hard - by billy - 05-19-2014, 12:22 PM
RE: writing poetry is so flipping hard - by billy - 05-23-2014, 05:07 PM
RE: writing poetry is so flipping hard - by billy - 05-25-2014, 10:24 AM
RE: writing poetry is so flipping hard - by Keith - 05-25-2014, 11:38 AM
RE: writing poetry is so flipping hard - by billy - 05-25-2014, 06:30 PM
RE: writing poetry is so flipping hard - by Todd - 05-25-2014, 09:13 PM
RE: writing poetry is so flipping hard - by billy - 05-27-2014, 04:14 PM
RE: writing poetry is so flipping hard - by milo - 05-28-2014, 12:27 AM
RE: writing poetry is so flipping hard - by milo - 05-28-2014, 03:22 AM
RE: writing poetry is so flipping hard - by milo - 05-28-2014, 05:36 AM
RE: writing poetry is so flipping hard - by milo - 05-28-2014, 06:35 AM
RE: writing poetry is so flipping hard - by just mercedes - 04-24-2016, 06:58 AM
RE: writing poetry is so flipping hard - by milo - 04-24-2016, 12:45 PM
RE: writing poetry is so flipping hard - by milo - 05-28-2014, 11:29 AM
RE: writing poetry is so flipping hard - by billy - 05-28-2014, 05:39 PM
RE: writing poetry is so flipping hard - by billy - 01-09-2017, 09:29 AM
RE: writing poetry is so flipping hard - by RiverNotch - 01-09-2017, 06:03 PM



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