Registering the Poor to Vote is Un-American
#1
So says journalist Matthew Vadum in his article published here:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/09/r...rican.html

Quoth he: "Why are left-wing activist groups so keen on registering the poor to vote? Because they know the poor can be counted on to vote themselves more benefits by electing redistributionist politicians."

Um.. yeah. Just like rich people vote based on their interests, the working class vote based on theirs, students theirs, etc, etc.

It gets even more insulting: "Registering them to vote is like handing out burglary tools to criminals."

So... the patriotic thing to do is keep an entire segment of society from voting, thus undermining the basic principles of democracy? Right, gotcha. Hysterical
PS. If you can, try your hand at giving some of the others a bit of feedback. If you already have, thanks, can you do some more?
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#2
Sure, cos you're POOR because you're a criminal... no rich man ever did anything underhanded, illegal or downright despicable.

We have compulsory voting in Australia -- people from other countries always criticise us for that, but it means that everyone's voice really is equal.
It could be worse
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#3
(09-07-2011, 05:42 AM)Leanne Wrote:  no rich man ever did anything underhanded, illegal or downright despicable.

Hysterical

Wait, other countries criticize you for... making people vote? I'm beginning to think I completely misunderstand how free nations work.
PS. If you can, try your hand at giving some of the others a bit of feedback. If you already have, thanks, can you do some more?
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#4
what happens if you don't want to vote because they're all twats, which with politicians is often the case?
in the present day and age only those with financial backing get voted in. even obama who got financed by donations had rich people setting it all up so it could happen. we haven't changed so much from the borgias. i would think forcing people to vote would generate a few fuck it votes where they just vote for a nice face hehe.
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(09-11-2011, 11:43 AM)billy Wrote:  what happens if you don't want to vote because they're all twats, which with politicians is often the case?
in the present day and age only those with financial backing get voted in. even obama who got financed by donations had rich people setting it all up so it could happen. we haven't changed so much from the borgias. i would think forcing people to vote would generate a few fuck it votes where they just vote for a nice face hehe.

I could be the president of Australia??!!
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#6
Lincoln was a peanut farmer.
*Warning: blatant tomfoolery above this line
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(02-18-2014, 04:45 AM)kindofahippy Wrote:  Lincoln was a peanut farmer.

Ah, but was he a peanut picker?
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#8
Every president since George Washington was a peanut farmer. 1 goober 1 vote!

So you gave up your freedom to not vote? Has anyone ever contemplated that democracy has little to do with actual freedom? Democracy practiced for enough years becomes to resemble the edict "that which is not forbidden is compulsory". Of course just as soon as we run out of enough potable water (which is fast approaching), all of these social experiments in political science will go out the door when the government seizes control of your reproductive rights and we return to the feudal system.

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How long after picking up the brush, the first masterpiece?

The goal is not to obfuscate that which is clear, but make clear that which isn't.
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#9
(02-18-2014, 04:45 AM)kindofahippy Wrote:  Lincoln was a peanut farmer.

I think that was Jimmy Carter
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#10
Jimmy Carter was a beer farmer
How long after picking up the brush, the first masterpiece?

The goal is not to obfuscate that which is clear, but make clear that which isn't.
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#11
everyone but the extremely rich should be put in prison labor camps to labor for the benifit of the rich, who are obviously the better suited to govern and make decisions, how else would they have all the money?they would be too fatt and happy to bother with infighting so violence would decline. Of course they may occasionally commit genocide or wipe out entire nations or even generations for a piece of prime real estate, but that's nothing compared to poor getting high or putting their grimey fingers in the peanut bowl.

or suppose we only have to lock up a few of the proles so that they can see how much worse off they could be; it doesn't matter which ones (except of course the ones who dare to hunt on the kings land), hell, let the proles decide! so long as they mind their own little hell they are no matter.

We'll toughen them up real good then unleash them again like a pack of unfed, angry dogs! Yeah then the rest will be so bloodthirsty for revenge they won't pay attention to anything else that's going on!
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#12
(09-11-2011, 11:43 AM)billy Wrote:  what happens if you don't want to vote because they're all twats, which with politicians is often the case?
in the present day and age only those with financial backing get voted in. even obama who got financed by donations had rich people setting it all up so it could happen. we haven't changed so much from the borgias. i would think forcing people to vote would generate a few fuck it votes where they just vote for a nice face hehe.

I don't know about Australia, but in Canada, you can go and "decline" to vote. As soon as they hand you your ballot, you just give it back and say you decline to vote, and they put it in a separate box which is then counted at the end of the election. I did that last provincial election because all of the candidates sucked. Of course, not very many people are aware they can do this (or are too lazy to do so; I'd rather show up and let them know I'm willing to vote for someone I actually believe in), and we don't have compulsory voting.

We do have one of the dumbest electoral systems possible though. It's a "first past the post" system, meaning you only vote for the candidate in your riding who will then represent you in the house of commons; the candidate with the most votes in your riding wins the seat, and the party with the most seats wins the election. This means that a party can get say 15 % of the popular vote, yet end up with no representation in government because they don't win the election in any individual riding. It's meant to allow the candidate "representing" your riding to speak for your riding, but in reality all the candidates just vote along party lines.

This leads to people voting for the better (in their mind) of the typically two parties in their riding which actually have a chance of winning the seat, instead of who they actually believe in voting for. We have 4 well known parties in Canada (and a separatist party in Quebec), and it pretty much destroys the smallest one (the Green (environmental) party). It's infuriating...

Also, don't you guys know that in America money is considered "speech". Obviously poor people shouldn't be able to vote...
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#13
oh, right. money talks Thumbsup. heh, good one. It's so funny hearing non Americans talk about how things are in America. Smile one could say just about anything and they will swear they've seen it in a movie or read it somewhere, then get very angry and want to argue about such sick atrocities!

btw they would never deny a demographic the right to vote in the us (without a criminal record). they are much smarter than that - they would just stop counting them.

the best thing about that scenario is "they" can be whoever you like! Smile

pick one - the politicians, the capitalists, religulous right wingers and amoral trillionaires alike, the "communist" left wingers ...
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(02-18-2014, 04:37 AM)milo Wrote:  
(09-11-2011, 11:43 AM)billy Wrote:  what happens if you don't want to vote because they're all twats, which with politicians is often the case?
in the present day and age only those with financial backing get voted in. even obama who got financed by donations had rich people setting it all up so it could happen. we haven't changed so much from the borgias. i would think forcing people to vote would generate a few fuck it votes where they just vote for a nice face hehe.
I could be the president of Australia??!!
i said a nice face, not a nice place Hysterical

the fact that all systems fail means that they all work. i ilke the yank way of getting politicians and the uk way which is similar to the uk way, the philippines follows the usa way and it's shite because of all the corruption. as an outsider i disagree with many laws in many lands but see the american way of life as one of the better ones. it would be an awful state of affairs if we all loved everything USA, or any other country for that matter.
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#15
What is the American way? most get thier ideas from sensationalist talk show hosts on either side, and other similar media. most Americans get thier ideas about other countries from dated history books that in no way tell the story the same way as that country's books will tell it. Most of our media is American. their are some American that venture out to other sources but in that way we are almost like China. In the popular bookstores you will not find any foreign poetry translated to English. sure, plenty exists, but not like in europe where borders are closer together and one might go shopping in another country, despite the fact that there is no drinking water anywhere and even the showers aren't safe so most try not to stray too far from the town well.
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#16
(07-31-2014, 06:04 AM)trueenigma Wrote:  In the popular bookstores you will not find any foreign poetry translated to English.

try looking for a little book called "Illiad" or perhaps "The Divine Comedy" or perhaps anything by Pablo Neruda.
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#17
what are those? Oh, I know that virgil makes video video games and some old poet with long feet named one of his characters in his book dante's inferno after the movie Smile but I've never heard of those other guys Smile

we have bbc and telemundo for the love of pete!

hass did basho and issa

pinsky did the comedy

and tons of american literature is floating around the world. we are not all that different. i know a fisherman in laos who is pretty aware that john wayne is not the only american. he was pretty surprised to see an orange on the airplane though.

we have study buddys in the Philippians

and billys probably been to the mcdonald's down the street from my house.

he probably thinks ted nugent is hilarious.

i have to make sense all day long in the real world. give me a break. i dunno what i'm talking about anymore than you know what i'm talking about.
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#18
i've done a bit of travelling and and met a few peoples. the yanks def have a way of their own and sorry i can't explain it but like the uk there is a steryotype. and within that stereotype sub stereotypes of which i have seen but a few. in general most places i've been have peoples with similar values, morals and judgements. the yanks just tend to do it louder the germans stricter the philippinos happier and the brits drunkenly. not a lot of differences but a lot of differences.

(07-31-2014, 06:04 AM)trueenigma Wrote:  What is the American way? most get thier ideas from sensationalist talk show hosts on either side, and other similar media. most Americans get thier ideas about other countries from dated history books that in no way tell the story the same way as that country's books will tell it. Most of our media is American. their are some American that venture out to other sources but in that way we are almost like China. In the popular bookstores you will not find any foreign poetry translated to English. sure, plenty exists, but not like in europe where borders are closer together and one might go shopping in another country, despite the fact that there is no drinking water anywhere and even the showers aren't safe so most try not to stray too far from the town well.
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#19
if the Philippinos do it happier and the brits drunker, then where do the two meet? That's where I wanna go, the land of the drunk and happy. I don't drink anymore cause my liver is too old, but everyone would laugh at my jokes
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#20
most brits are either scots or irish and often belligerent under the influence, i'm a happy drunk that swears a lot. while the filipino is a happy chap, there's often an underlying current that distrusts foreigners, many sell their votes for a few pesos and the politics is outright licensed thievery.
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