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(01-21-2013, 12:06 PM)Yelleryella123 Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-21-2013, 11:06 AM)Jagger Cyde Wrote: [ -> ]I like how it reads. The farther along you go the faster the words go through your head. It builds energy and excitement.

Isn't it amazing what words can do to emotions?

yes! emotions, memories, smells even - or maybe I'm crazy Tongue

I think just about everyone is crazy, and those who aren't tend to be boring.
(01-21-2013, 12:18 PM)Jagger Cyde Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-21-2013, 12:06 PM)Yelleryella123 Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-21-2013, 11:06 AM)Jagger Cyde Wrote: [ -> ]I like how it reads. The farther along you go the faster the words go through your head. It builds energy and excitement.

Isn't it amazing what words can do to emotions?

yes! emotions, memories, smells even - or maybe I'm crazy Tongue

I think just about everyone is crazy, and those who aren't tend to be boring.

Smile
See, to me sanity is a choice squares make. I mean, I could decide to not say whatever comes to mind first. But why the hell would I do a sane thing like that?
(01-21-2013, 12:43 PM)Card Wrote: [ -> ]See, to me sanity is a choice squares make. I mean, I could decide to not say whatever comes to mind first. But why the hell would I do a sane thing like that?

This has a lot to do with my favorite one liner I've thought of

Sanity is boredom.
I guess that depends on what you believe sanity is
I believe it is some made up word (because it is) that some guy created so he could deem others insane and feel superior in his overall sanity.

Sounds insane to me.

rowens

Why don't you cats move these comments over to the discussion section where I've spent weeks talking about my mental problems, before we get in trouble for getting too off subject, and doolasmind#11 gets pissed.

Because I feel like ranting some more.
(01-21-2013, 01:00 PM)rowens Wrote: [ -> ]Why don't you cats move these comments over to the discussion section where I've spent weeks talking about my mental problems, before we get in trouble for getting too off subject, and doolasmind#11 gets pissed.

Because I feel like ranting some more.
done/ admin

rowens

Yelleryella123 has lots of ideas I'm interested in hearing about. About humanity and society. I want to hear because then I'll be able to rage against doctors and institutions some more. Because they don't like me, and I don't like them.
(01-21-2013, 01:13 PM)rowens Wrote: [ -> ]Yelleryella123 has lots of ideas I'm interested in hearing about. About humanity and society. I want to hear because then I'll be able to rage against doctors and institutions some more. Because they don't like me, and I don't like them.

I can't tell if this is absolute sarcasm

rowens

No. I'm serious. I want to hear your opinions.
(01-21-2013, 12:55 PM)Yelleryella123 Wrote: [ -> ]I guess that depends on what you believe sanity is
I believe it is some made up word (because it is) that some guy created so he could deem others insane and feel superior in his overall sanity.

Sounds insane to me.

Well really, any word that groups people together is just made to make someone feel more superior.

rowens

This is a very personal subject for me. And yesterday I said some things in "The Last Dream" comments before I realized how young you are. And I've since seen you make some very valid points around the site. And I'm interested in having this discussion.
(01-21-2013, 01:28 PM)Jagger Cyde Wrote: [ -> ]Well really, any word that groups people together is just made to make someone feel more superior.
The only titles needed are "Human" and "Male" and "Female." In the sense of penises and vaginas, not necessarily in sexuality. The "Human" thing is for primarily sexual meanings though.

rowens

They're making me go out of this house now. I don't have Internet in the room where I stay. So tomorrow, I hope you'll see that I'm not being sarcastic at all. That I've had many fights about mental health with doctors and family. And I truly appreciate the things you say.
(01-21-2013, 01:57 PM)rowens Wrote: [ -> ]They're making me go out of this house now. I don't have Internet in the room where I stay. So tomorrow, I hope you'll see that I'm not being sarcastic at all. That I've had many fights about mental health with doctors and family. And I truly appreciate the things you say.

After reading your last few posts... What's going on with you?

rowens

In what sense? I'm trying to clear up this sarcasm angle before I have to leave.

And if you mean what's wrong with me. Well, that's why I want to talk about sanity.
If you are asking me to "enlighten" you to my views of the world and this society, I warn you that I may be as ignorant as the guy next door who thinks he knows all. I have my own ideas but I do not claim to know the system in its entirety - or be able to see through it. I am not against the system - I am for system upgrade.
Nobody can truly remove them self from the system. Going off the grid does the same amount for society as ranting about how things need to change. I know I am part of the system and a beneficiary so I do not rage against doctors and institutions, I am not that kind of conspirator. I want to improve upon what we have established. But what have we established exactly? There are systems in place I do not agree with. I do not like the idea that wool has been pulled over my eyes in many situations and that as much as I think I may know how everything works there is still wool blinding me from the absolute.
The only place I have been able to find absolute truth is in mathematics and the feeling I get when I read a good book, hear a beautiful poem or listen to a masterpiece. I am a big fan of Amy Goodman and any real truth seeker out there working on sifting through the garbage for the good stuff.
I haven't quite figured out what I am doing as an individual but I am working on it. The first thing (for me) is to become aware of my own hypocrisy and eliminate it. I am lucky to live here, I know. But why do I feel so guilty? What don't I know? I have become obsessed with finding out - does that make me a snotty first world brat who can't be thankful for what I have at the expense of others? I am not supposed to know about the others, am I? Not knowing keeps the system afloat.
Why do we do what we do? Why do we believe what we believe?
Many of us just take what is given without asking any questions.
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I didn't realize while writing this that you were being serious. I thought you were being a smart ass , sorry if this came across as anger.

rowens

And this is partly in response to what I said in the poem comment, right?

I can say more things later. Now I'm being thrown out.

(01-21-2013, 02:07 PM)Yelleryella123 Wrote: [ -> ]The first thing (for me) is to become aware of my own hypocrisy and eliminate it.

That's the most important thing. I'll be back.
Well, one question springing to mind is "What is it you 'have'?" Like, who exactly are "they" and where are you staying?

If you don't feel like answering, that's okay. I know (am related to) some people who wouldn't say they had anything, even under perfect anonymity.
I'm not really like that, though. I'm alright with telling people I have ADD, basically no social awareness, and (apparently, in my friends' eyes) a mild case of "yellow fever." Even in real life.
'Course, I'm also a bit of an idiot. So maybe you shouldn't follow my example.


Oh, posts. Yay. I'll jump on the bandwagon and include a bit about me!


Apart from not respecting Freud, I don't really have anything against doctors. What riles me is disrespect. Towards me, towards my fellow man, towards beliefs and ideals. Now, I can take a joke: self-deprecating humor is all I really have. But genuine disrespect does. Patronizing is one of the biggest. So is taking advantage of others, or striking at them physically or verbally.

But I don't really see conspiracies anywhere. I can see where the system is biased, because it is, but none of that is really hidden. It just isn't changed, and to be honest, it probably won't ever change. But that's life. I'm a Christian, so I'm really glad this isn't all there is.

Right, so I don't have much that's "wrong" about me. The only physical thing is ADD, and my jaw, I guess. Does ugliness count as a condition? I guess it might. Those things, and my being white, led me to be an isolated kid in grade-school. It also brought English to my attention. People (in books, at least) talk about how their only friends were books, and they read because they wanted to belong.

That wasn't me. I read because English made sense. It had rules, it had emotion. But most of all, it occupied my mind. It was my ADD medication for twelve years. It did more than made sense, it was sense. Right up until I discovered people. Now I look at social relationships, and while I still can't seem to understand people and their relationships, I can see them function. Makes history and governments seem logical to me.

See, I can do things if I look at them relationally. As ratios, as patterns, and such. I do my best work in mathematics without a calculator. Luckily, everything natural to Earth can be viewed as a system. Economics, science, even most human emotion is rather formulaic. Except... there is chaos. Deviations from logic. Ghosts in the machine. Perception is one of these. It's also much wider ranging than most people think. It's more than just senses, it's feeling.

But it's odd to see people talk about thinking out of the box. Here's a bit of a tip: you can't get in, you can't get out. We think different, but there's nothing wrong in doing so. I can't think very creatively, but that's alright. I do systems, that's who I am. I'll never be a great painter, but that's alright.
It's one of those things that I get upset about, when someone tries to change their way of thinking. We have our grooves. Don't try to hide it. That is the way we are all unique: in that we have perspectives of thought. Humans are deviation, and that deviation is thought.
And that deviation is what we cannot replicate in robotics. That's one reason why we can't actually have a true artificial intelligence.


Anyways, that was a mouthful. Sorry 'bout that, if it's too long. But that's what happens when I begin to speak. My mom didn't raise herself any doormats, that's for damn sure.
What do I have?

Everything and nothing. At the same time. Everything in this life is borrowed.. we come here empty handed and we go empty handed. Not even the skin on my back is truly "mine" is it?
If my only true belongings are my actions how do I know my actions are my own? If I believe they are not my own and it is all in the hands of a 'higher power' or fate (for example) am I free? Am I responsible?
Who is doing the thinking? Who trained me? Am I product of everything around me or is everything around me a product of my mind?


Actions sprout from thoughts,
thoughts sprout from previous actions
and previous actions sprout from previous thought.
So what do I have?
I only have my perception of each moment I exist in. And I so easily give it away to other moments in time, focusing on my future or thinking about my past. This society is so GO GO GO get shit done and base your existence on it - there is no time to self reflect. We become cogs in the machine.
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