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this is not me having a digg because of the other thread Hysterical

instead of the boat people going to auz, plans have been drawn up that they'll more or less be stopped mid stream and sent to papa new guinea and another island which will be used as holding pens. the argument goes, if we send them there, the sea crossing won't be as dangerous for them. some are up in arms calling the islands nothing more than prison camps. what are your views/

here's a couple of mine. is there room for assange Hysterical
seriously, is the Australian Gov paying to house them there and if so how much?
is there a maximum stay in order to facilitate a move to the mainland in a way that is quick and feasible. equador can do political asylum in a few weeks and though the cases may not be as clear cut, the humanitarian grounds are much much more compelling. i see no problem with what they're doing as long as it isn't used as a dustbin. they have rights to closed borders the same as any country so i think a lot of the uproar is a little unfair. i also suspect that while many genuinely seek political asylum many are just trying too escape poverty.
(08-18-2012, 07:00 PM)billy Wrote: [ -> ]this is not me having a digg because of the other thread Hysterical

instead of the boat people going to auz, plans have been drawn up that they'll more or less be stopped mid stream and sent to papa new guinea and another island which will be used as holding pens. the argument goes, if we send them there, the sea crossing won't be as dangerous for them. some are up in arms calling the islands nothing more than prison camps. what are your views/

here's a couple of mine. is there room for assange Hysterical
seriously, is the Australian Gov paying to house them there and if so how much?
is there a maximum stay in order to facilitate a move to the mainland in a way that is quick and feasible. equador can do political asylum in a few weeks and though the cases may not be as clear cut, the humanitarian grounds are much much more compelling. i see no problem with what they're doing as long as it isn't used as a dustbin. they have rights to closed borders the same as any country so i think a lot of the uproar is a little unfair. i also suspect that while many genuinely seek political asylum many are just trying too escape poverty.


we all know that, but it is not really about them. they are chessmen being played out in a political game. we all know it. and are plain sick to death with it. we have had three years of tony abbot on the TV just about every day, snipping and snipping and plainly being one of the nasties men I have ever been forced to look at every day. and its as if he likes ripping the women apart, and this from a failed priest . ity is depressing. It is teaching our children how to be snidey and mental bullies. It is a disgrace that his party member s stand behind him to the end that it will gain them higher employment if his party wins. No it is nothing to do with the homeless. I only hope he suffers the same hell in spades he is placing on this country
(08-21-2012, 12:11 AM)Bronte Wrote: [ -> ]we all know that, but it is not really about them. they are chessmen being played out in a political game. we all know it. and are plain sick to death with it. we have had three years of tony abbot on the TV just about every day, snipping and snipping and plainly being one of the nasties men I have ever been forced to look at every day. and its as if he likes ripping the women apart, and this from a failed priest . ity is depressing. It is teaching our children how to be snidey and mental bullies. It is a disgrace that his party member s stand behind him to the end that it will gain them higher employment if his party wins. No it is nothing to do with the homeless. I only hope he suffers the same hell in spades he is placing on this country
i don't know enough about aus politics to know who's who apart from the prime minister. so it's hard for me to comment on that side of things.
i can see the snse in using a place to house illegal immigrants till they get asylum and whether it's off shore or mainland doesn't make a lot of difference from a moral standpoint. not sure of any economic costs but i'm presuming they'll be a large financial gain to it being off shore. i think it all boils down to how humanely they're treated. politics and politicians are dirty, thats a fact proven since time immemorial.