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Benny2guns

The Internal Revenue Service will function as the government’s chief enforcer for health care reform, should President Obama sign the bill into law as expected, monitoring both businesses and individuals to certify whether they have the insurance coverage the government requires.

The tax collection agency will be responsible for monitoring and enforcing compliance with the individual and employer insurance mandates which form the backbone of the Democrats’ hard-won reforms.

The bill states that the purpose of the mandates is to regulate “economic and financial decisions about how and when health care is paid for, and when health insurance is purchased.”

The mandates require that all Americans carry a minimum level of health insurance or pay a separate tax for every month they are without such coverage. All employers with 50 employers or more will also be required to provide their employees with that same minimum level of coverage.

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http://cnsnews.com/news/article/63181
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so basically the max is 2000 plus per houshold. wouldn't it be better not to pay and then just pay the irs the 2500
a lot cheaper than paying for a premium to cover the family.

one point i would make is this. how many companies will keep their workforce below 50.
for me i think an insurance tax taken form source on a sliding scale would be better.
then when you go to hospital your treatment is paid for by the gov. only self employed people would have to pay the tax at the end of the year. every one else has it deducted.

as for costing ten bill. someone needs to kick a bit of arse at the irs.
The mandates require that all Americans carry a minimum level of health insurance or pay a separate tax for every month they are without such coverage. All employers with 50 employers or more will also be required to provide their employees with that same minimum level of coverage.

Those companies are already required to carry insurance Benny.
C.B.

Benny2guns

What happens to the people that can't afford to pay? They get fined? If they do then what is the point? I mean they can't afford to pay then they get fined and they certainly can't afford that so what then?
(03-25-2010, 06:35 PM)Benny2guns Wrote: [ -> ]What happens to the people that can't afford to pay? They get fined? If they do then what is the point? I mean they can't afford to pay then they get fined and they certainly can't afford that so what then?
those that work and earn will have to pay those who don't work will probably get an insurance credit. you can't tax the unemployed so no those who can't qafford it shouldn't get fined. whatever happens it's going to cost less than it does now and it's going to be mandatory which should mean more people putting into the pot.

the thing that pisses me off is that private insurance companies will still be utilized. thats the biggest load of bullshit i've heard.

Benny2guns

(03-25-2010, 07:29 PM)billy Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-25-2010, 06:35 PM)Benny2guns Wrote: [ -> ]What happens to the people that can't afford to pay? They get fined? If they do then what is the point? I mean they can't afford to pay then they get fined and they certainly can't afford that so what then?

those that work and earn will have to pay those who don't work will probably get an insurance credit. you can't tax the unemployed so no those who can't qafford it shouldn't get fined. whatever happens it's going to cost less than it does now and it's going to be mandatory which should mean more people putting into the pot.

the thing that pisses me off is that private insurance companies will still be utilized. thats the biggest load of bullshit i've heard.

There is a larger issue here that is being overlooked Bill. The bill makes it manditory for people to buy insurance from private insurance companies. This is total bullshit. This is in effect and very blatant to put it bluntly the Government acting as mussel for a protection racket owned by the elite.
(03-25-2010, 07:40 PM)Benny2guns Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-25-2010, 07:29 PM)billy Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-25-2010, 06:35 PM)Benny2guns Wrote: [ -> ]What happens to the people that can't afford to pay? They get fined? If they do then what is the point? I mean they can't afford to pay then they get fined and they certainly can't afford that so what then?
those that work and earn will have to pay those who don't work will probably get an insurance credit. you can't tax the unemployed so no those who can't qafford it shouldn't get fined. whatever happens it's going to cost less than it does now and it's going to be mandatory which should mean more people putting into the pot.

the thing that pisses me off is that private insurance companies will still be utilized. thats the biggest load of bullshit i've heard.
There is a larger issue here that is being overlooked Bill. The bill makes it manditory for people to buy insurance from private insurance companies. This is total bullshit. This is in effect and very blatant to put it bluntly the Government acting as mussel for a protection racket owned by the elite.
if you look benny you'll see thats the very thing i pointed out. its the last two lines i wrote. basically all the gov is doing is forcing people to generate profits for private insurers. not sure i'd call them elite. cunts maybe but on this i think we agree.

all the gov has to do is claim 90% ownership of all medical facilities such as hospitals and clincs etc. take the money from those who can afford it from source and incorperate healthcare worker into the government pay scheme. surgeons and doctors will still get big fat pay checks because some will pay to go the private route. over 8 billion a year won't be paid out to shareholders and rates will be noticably lower than they are or than they are proposed to be.

Benny2guns

(03-25-2010, 08:02 PM)billy Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-25-2010, 07:40 PM)Benny2guns Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-25-2010, 07:29 PM)billy Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-25-2010, 06:35 PM)Benny2guns Wrote: [ -> ]What happens to the people that can't afford to pay? They get fined? If they do then what is the point? I mean they can't afford to pay then they get fined and they certainly can't afford that so what then?

those that work and earn will have to pay those who don't work will probably get an insurance credit. you can't tax the unemployed so no those who can't qafford it shouldn't get fined. whatever happens it's going to cost less than it does now and it's going to be mandatory which should mean more people putting into the pot.

the thing that pisses me off is that private insurance companies will still be utilized. thats the biggest load of bullshit i've heard.

There is a larger issue here that is being overlooked Bill. The bill makes it manditory for people to buy insurance from private insurance companies. This is total bullshit. This is in effect and very blatant to put it bluntly the Government acting as mussel for a protection racket owned by the elite.

if you look benny you'll see thats the very thing i pointed out. its the last two lines i wrote. basically all the gov is doing is forcing people to generate profits for private insurers. not sure i'd call them elite. cunts maybe but on this i think we agree.

all the gov has to do is claim 90% ownership of all medical facilities such as hospitals and clincs etc. take the money from those who can afford it from source and incorperate healthcare worker into the government pay scheme. surgeons and doctors will still get big fat pay checks because some will pay to go the private route. over 8 billion a year won't be paid out to shareholders and rates will be noticably lower than they are or than they are proposed to be.

The companies themselves are owned or controlled by the same people who are members of various groups and families that are owned or controlled by the Builderburg group. This group are the elite

Acecale

(03-25-2010, 06:35 PM)Benny2guns Wrote: [ -> ]What happens to the people that can't afford to pay? They get fined? If they do then what is the point? I mean they can't afford to pay then they get fined and they certainly can't afford that so what then?
I know what you mean. This is unfortunately a long term issue. The fact that most of the people cannot afford to pay their health care insurance.