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Few of Emily Dickinson's friends knew she was a poet.
I know because I took a class In American literature,
in college. I didn't know until then, as our high school
English was mainly English novels and The Weekly
Reader.

About six of my college classmates did know ED
was a poet, and that fact they proclaimed in class
as often as they were allowed to.

-- Oh Dr. Davis, I knew Emily Dickinson was a poet
before I enrolled in your class.

-- That's nice, and yes she was.

-- Our tenth-grade teacher said she was murdered.

At this, Dr. Davis (I remember this as if it were 25 years
ago), scurried about his notes, fingers nervous and eyes
surprised.

-- Murdered? I hadn't heard that. I know other poets,
several in fact, were afraid of being murdered, but most
of them were in such poor heath their systems couldn't
stand the shock of being killed (DeQuincey)-- like Lieb-
nitz, who wasn't murdered but died fearing he might be.

-- Liebnitz wasn't a poet.

-- Oh, yes. He was. He wrote many poems. Kant too had
a fear of being murdered, as he took his eighty-six-mile
circular walks through Konigsberg. The town had a high
murder rate and most of the crimes were committed dur-
ing the day, when people walked around. Most of the
murdered people, for obvious reasons, did not complete
their walks.

-- Hmmmmm

-- Back to Emily. In 1866 she handed six poems to the
editor of New Letters in New England, a journal
specializing in occasional verse-- occasional, here,
not meaning verse written for an 'occasion,' but verse
written conveniently, when one has the time to write,
not being burdened with hour to hour duties.

The poems flopped because they were, all six, written
without spacing on a single sheet of paper. Emily be-
came depressed, discouraged, and lonely. That's when
she took to the house attic, partly as a recluse.

Reclusing was just a part.

-- Hmmmmm

-- I think the other part was her fear of being mur-
dered-- less likely if she kept to the attic. Her
murder-fear came from being frightened by a snake
when she was 14; at 32 she was taken from the attic
and forced to ride in a carraige, a ride that took
her past a graveyard on the way to see her aunt who
lived on the other side of Amherst.

At 56 she shuffled off her mortal coil, un-murdered.

Van Gogh was afraid of being murdered, in his sleep.
During the day he was not afraid of it, because during
the day he was waiting at the train station in Arles
for his brother to bring canvases and oil paints.

Usually geniuses who wait at train stations aren't mur-
dered, but are often asked for their documentation that
they are citizens of the country they are in, residing,
at the time.

Most people who fear murder, are not. As a matter of
taste (voluptas) and not what they would wish, they, the
most of us, prefer the quickess of murder to a drawn and
lingering passing-- say, from Ebola disease. We accept
murder if our lives are spared and we emerge from it
without body scars from a hacking hatchet, without bloat
from a swallow of a poison, without a gunshot hole in our
chests--in short, without the effects and affects of murder.

The idea of a lover held at bay being murdered has a melt-
ing effect on coy mistresses-- that they regret not allow-
ing the mysteries of virginity solved before your death;
and, lo! you appear near the bedside alive and vital,

fresh from a ten-mile run on the back of your black Irish
stallion. You appear within arm's reach to finger the
downiness of blessed Venus, now, by second-chance warm
and open.

She throws back the quilts and invites you in. She takes
no chance you might be murdered again-- like the old man
man in Synge's Playboy Of The Western World.

(End part one)
Though she deserved to be at least a little bit murdered for her mangling of punctuation alone, I suspect that there's something to your theory of murder as a more romantic option to, say, persistent haemorrhaging of internal organs until the entire contents of the body explodes out one's available orifices.

Somehow (though the subject link is not direct), I find the image of Miss Dickinson throwing back a quilt and inviting anyone to have their wicked way dreadfully incongruous. Making the gentleman a cup of tea and offering the use of a lantern to hold those murderous dark shadows at bay during the long walk home, perhaps. Maybe even -- gasp! -- unfastening the clasp at the very topmost of her flannel shirt to allow a brief glimpse of her delicate Adam's apple...

White coats! White coats!

As for punctuation....I often wonder.....do we really need all those colons and semi-colons.....just because I am rather fond of them....what is lost by using ellipses instead....and question-marks?

A great many poetasters ought to be shot at dawn..a poetic time of day.....
Where I on the other hand never give a toss and hurl them in haphazardly as to my whim.
Being totally uneducated in the field can do they to you children!
Yes I have been murdered often over my life , but for some reason my eyes keep opening back up. That my dears can be most unfortunate as the last time I was laid out on the table, granny was eating her porridge and died on the spot when my hand moved and tipped the bowl into her lap.
Far from being voluptuous I was a skinny little bitch with great big knockers and that stopped me from running for poet of the year in 1997.
Much to snotty Micks good fortune. We were an item back then but I left him standing on a corner the day he shit himself and let it run down the inside of his short pants.
He put me off boys until I was seven when met the love of my life. it took another fifteen years for him to realize his true intentions. That really killed me outright.
i'm worse than emily with punctuation but was she' murdered, i hope so, i only enjoyed a few of her poems and i'm not sure the world could accept another 1500 or so more of them were she not to have died when she did.
in truth i have no idea how she died, is the her demise part of a conspiracy theory?

Enjoyed this. Eagerly await any future parts.

And as you posted in discussion: I have actually witnessed and participated
in her murder on several occasions. I had this friend, Brian, who liked to
"translate" her poems (his expression) into limericks. He was shockingly good
at it, partly because many of her poems ARE, spiritually, limericks. (Two of
the reasons I like her stuff are that it's short and it's playful.) His ones
derived from her fly/buzz/death poem were amazing. I'll try to find a few
and post them.

where did the wpman get all that time to write so much poetry, before she was done in?
and do we know why and how she was murdered?
Very fun read. Next I'm sure you'll produce evidence that proves that Sylvia Plath didn't own an oven. I'm looking forward to additional installments.
(04-07-2012, 08:55 AM)rayheinrich Wrote: [ -> ]
Enjoyed this. Eagerly await any future parts.

And as you posted in discussion: I have actually witnessed and participated
in her murder on several occasions. I had this friend, Brian, who liked to
"translate" her poems (his expression) into limericks. He was shockingly good
at it, partly because many of her poems ARE, spiritually, limericks. (Two of
the reasons I like her stuff are that it's short and it's playful.) His ones
derived from her fly/buzz/death poem were amazing. I'll try to find a few
and post them.



Yes, please post them..
and thanks for the comment ...
vr


[quote='billy' pid='93963' dateline='1333756663']
where did the wpman get all that time to write so much poetry, before she was done in?
and do we know why and how she was murdered?

She had all the time she needed--
the details of her murdered have not been
released, pending notification of her
family.
rv
(04-07-2012, 07:06 AM)Leanne Wrote: [ -> ]Though she deserved to be at least a little bit murdered for her mangling of punctuation alone, I suspect that there's something to your theory of murder as a more romantic option to, say, persistent haemorrhaging of internal organs until the entire contents of the body explodes out one's available orifices.

Somehow (though the subject link is not direct), I find the image of Miss Dickinson throwing back a quilt and inviting anyone to have their wicked way dreadfully incongruous. Making the gentleman a cup of tea and offering the use of a lantern to hold those murderous dark shadows at bay during the long walk home, perhaps. Maybe even -- gasp! -- unfastening the clasp at the very topmost of her flannel shirt to allow a brief glimpse of her delicate Adam's apple...

Emily, like Whitman, never married-- and after her death
her association with Melville more or less ended.
rv
(04-07-2012, 12:34 PM)Todd Wrote: [ -> ]Very fun read. Next I'm sure you'll produce evidence that proves that Sylvia Plath didn't own an oven. I'm looking forward to additional installments.

Additional installments??

I'm working on Charles Lamb and Thomas Macaulay.

Thanka for the reply.
(I heard a fly buzz)
rv
(04-07-2012, 08:32 AM)Bronte Wrote: [ -> ]Where I on the other hand never give a toss and hurl them in haphazardly as to my whim.
Being totally uneducated in the field can do they to you children!
Yes I have been murdered often over my life , but for some reason my eyes keep opening back up. That my dears can be most unfortunate as the last time I was laid out on the table, granny was eating her porridge and died on the spot when my hand moved and tipped the bowl into her lap.
Far from being voluptuous I was a skinny little bitch with great big knockers and that stopped me from running for poet of the year in 1997.
Much to snotty Micks good fortune. We were an item back then but I left him standing on a corner the day he shit himself and let it run down the inside of his short pants.
He put me off boys until I was seven when met the love of my life. it took another fifteen years for him to realize his true intentions. That really killed me outright.

I love you Bronte ...
dt
And Melville? What was that harpoon compensating for?
(04-07-2012, 02:33 PM)Leanne Wrote: [ -> ]And Melville? What was that harpoon compensating for?

How about that peg?
It's an exciting fish tale...
with lots of spermacetti.

Peg- stomping and cursing God--
should have stayed back on Cape Cod.

v
i wish i could understand what you were saying Sad

I love you Bronte ...
dt
and all my knockers too. :angel:
(04-08-2012, 09:28 AM)billy Wrote: [ -> ]i wish i could understand what you were saying Sad
she's cleverly diverting the topic towards her knockersHysterical
Everybody loves knockers. They're the secret to world peace.
[Image: emily_dickinson.jpg]
ok,i googled her,no knockers at all
(04-11-2012, 05:01 PM)srijantje Wrote: [ -> ]ok,i googled her,no knockers at all



me or the dead shelia?

I know i had two this morning Big Grin

i meant the dead sheila,i have nothing to compare,hint,hint

                  [Image: dickinson.JPG]


                  from:
                  http://causticcovercritic.blogspot.com/2010/04/live-nude-emily-dickinson.html


There was a young girl from Nantucket
Who kept all her cash in a bucket
Her father, named Nan,
Ran away with a man—
And, as for the bucket, Nantucket

She followed the pair to Sheetucket
(The man and her dad with the bucket)
And she said to the man,
"You're welcome to Nan,"
But as for the bucket, Sheetucket

Then the pair followed her to Manhasset
Where she still held the cash as an asset
And Nan and the man
Stole the money and ran
And as for the bucket, Manhasset


There was a young girl from nantucket
who had knockers like smallish buckets
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