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Benny2guns

first off i moved it to serious discussions.

i think it's an invasion of privacy in one sense though it's something i wish they'd have done with me. i was never in school.

fpr me it's one of those times when a bit of invasion goes a long way to helping the kids. never saw all the video so i don't know if they just where them in school or all the time? if it's all the time then they need some way to turn them off outside school hours.
this is absolutely disgusting,don't even have to watch the video to know it's along the same lines as the web cam in the laptops.And why you wish they had done it to you,Bill,if they did you might have become a frustrated unemployed professor in the u.k. instead of living in the philipines happily ever after.the point is,it's wrong to come up with or implement any of these measures,permanent,
control freaks rule
(03-06-2010, 02:14 PM)srijantje Wrote: [ -> ]this is absolutely disgusting,don't even have to watch the video to know it's along the same lines as the web cam in the laptops.And why you wish they had done it to you,Bill,if they did you might have become a frustrated unemployed professor in the u.k. instead of living in the philipines happily ever after.the point is,it's wrong to come up with or implement any of these measures,permanent,
control freaks rule
the idea of leaving your kid at school fails if they can simply fuck off and no one knows where they are. when i left my kids at school i expected my kids to stay at school.
we expect teachers to take care of our kids in school. to be able to tell us where they are and if possible what they've been doing.

a device that monitors their whereabouts with in the school and only during school hours would be preferable to me knowing what i know that goes re truancy. for me it's nothing like viewing some one in the privacy of their own home via a web cam. if i could i'd bring back corporal punishment in schools. but i guess that for another thread Wink

also think of this.
if you take your child to school in the uk and he slips out after you left him there and he does it regularly. it's you the parent whose liable and not the school. you can end up with a big fine and a criminal record simply because the school can't really check up that he's still within the grounds. at least with a monitor the school can ring you and say.

hey you twat, your kid just skipped school again.

Benny2guns

Wow ..... SJ you are correct man. Bill your missing the underlying motivation here man. This is the elite training both parents and children to accept tracking devices as normal life routine. Next step is RFID man, damn why are people so fucking blind. Angry
(03-07-2010, 09:53 AM)velvetfog Wrote: [ -> ]Children under 18, controlled by parents or legal guardians, prisoners on parole, people with do-not-go-near type restraining orders against them. Big dogs.

The are all kinds of folks that one might want to put a high tech, GPS locator/cell phone transponder leg brace or collar on.
If we could make all the alcoholics wear web cam collars, then the monitoring folks could count their drinks. The possibilities are endless.
joking or not i agree.

sometimes we need to know what OUR kids are doing
sometimes it would be good to know OUR partners was safe.
sometimes it would be good to know OUR kids aren't in the vicinity of some child molester.

and if you're worried about the elite. simply allow the parent to buy the tag and place it on their kids partner etc so only they know what their child is up to during school hours.

Benny2guns

(03-07-2010, 11:25 AM)billy Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-07-2010, 09:53 AM)velvetfog Wrote: [ -> ]Children under 18, controlled by parents or legal guardians, prisoners on parole, people with do-not-go-near type restraining orders against them. Big dogs.

The are all kinds of folks that one might want to put a high tech, GPS locator/cell phone transponder leg brace or collar on.
If we could make all the alcoholics wear web cam collars, then the monitoring folks could count their drinks. The possibilities are endless.

joking or not i agree.

sometimes we need to know what OUR kids are doing
sometimes it would be good to know OUR partners was safe.
sometimes it would be good to know OUR kids aren't in the vicinity of some child molester.

and if you're worried about the elite. simply allow the parent to buy the tag and place it on their kids partner etc so only they know what their child is up to during school hours.

Not a chance, none of it. Your allowing the excuses to be made for that Orwellian state to creep in and bite you in the ass. You have it your way and you will screw the rest of us. You and people like you are the problem and not the solution. Listen to yourselves for christ's sake. Fuckit bill just grab VF and all your family members and head on down to sheep shearing central, get them RFID tags injected as soon as possible. Your allowing the very people who molest my kids the ability to track them.
There is no if to this. You either know the facts or your working for the man at this point. Neither one of you have the brains given a goat.
The pair of you flip off claiming to know by reason of street smarts or volumns of reading that this or that in every senario that I put up as a means to get people to do some research that it's bull to this or bull to that and it can't be a bad thing because of some bullshit reasoning.
Wake the fuck up or don't but atleast don't spew the corporate media spun brain hack and wack mind fuck shit my way.
People you need to get a damn good grip on just what is happening around you. Don't trust your well being to these mind hacks. Go online and get the information. If you don't know where to start then ask me and i'll hook you up with the facts.
Don't allow any tech, that involves human tracking devices of any kind.
If ther is one thing that you stand up and say no to at all cost it's this kind of technology
Say no to any form of RFID tracking.
Don't allow any tech,that involves human tracking devises of any kind.

i couldn't agree more,ofcours one can come up with instances where it would be beneficial,but the cons far far outweigh the pros and it's gonne be used by the control freaks in charge for what ever but actually NOt for the reason they say they installed it in the first place
it tells em when they leave the school premises. it doesn't tell them where they are afterward, only that they are out of range of a transceiver.

and while they're at it i say they should use xrays and screening techniques in schools and colleges. not sure how many guns and knives get carried in but it's too many.

better yet bring back corporal punishment. whip the fuckers who play truant and make the parents do the whipping. if a kid is a persistent truant. tag the bastard. fuck the elite fuck 1984 and fuck

i won't call you names though benny. i won't say you're a gullible moron who listens to every bit of shite on a youtube vid and believes it. i wont do that because that would be attacking you. you on the other hand can tell me i have no brains. but not too often mind cos this isn't the void.
(03-07-2010, 05:57 PM)billy Wrote: [ -> ]it tells em when they leave the school premises. it doesn't tell them where they are afterward, only that they are out of range of a transceiver.

and while they're at it i say they should use xrays and screening techniques in schools and colleges. not sure how many guns and knives get carried in but it's too many.

better yet bring back corporal punishment. whip the fuckers who play truant and make the parents do the whipping. if a kid is a persistent truant. tag the bastard. fuck the elite fuck 1984 and fuck

i won't call you names though benny. i won't say you're a gullible moron who listens to every bit of shite on a youtube vid and believes it. i wont do that because that would be attacking you. you on the other hand can tell me i have no brains. but not too often mind cos this isn't the void.
this isn't the void,don't slag/mod

Benny2guns

(03-07-2010, 05:57 PM)billy Wrote: [ -> ]it tells em when they leave the school premises. it doesn't tell them where they are afterward, only that they are out of range of a transceiver.

and while they're at it i say they should use xrays and screening techniques in schools and colleges. not sure how many guns and knives get carried in but it's too many.

better yet bring back corporal punishment. whip the fuckers who play truant and make the parents do the whipping. if a kid is a persistent truant. tag the bastard. fuck the elite fuck 1984 and fuck

i won't call you names though benny. i won't say you're a gullible moron who listens to every bit of shite on a youtube vid and believes it. i wont do that because that would be attacking you. you on the other hand can tell me i have no brains. but not too often mind cos this isn't the void.

First of all youtube vids are the best way to get info out to people, well not only youtube vids but vids made and supplied from any sourse link really. Funny how people bark up a storm when people use the media ( video technology ) to transfer information in the same manner as the elite that own it and use it. I put up info to read also, I have alot more of it but obviously it's not being read by alot of people.
Now you have offered no proof other than your own ranting opinion that I am wrong. You moved this to SD&D so I would like to see you prove I am wrong and with more than just your opinion.
http://news.cnet.com/2010-1069-980325.html
http://www.spychips.com/alec-big-brother...ticle.html
http://www.spychips.com/

Benny2guns

(03-08-2010, 04:39 AM)velvetfog Wrote: [ -> ]Last summer, the 20 something daughter of a friend of mine, who still lives at home with her parents, traveled throughout South America with a group of her friends. My friend, being a very loving and concerned father, purchased a GPS beacon unit, and got her to put it in the bottom of her handbag before she left. He observed her location on Google maps throughout her trip.

Proving what VF? That her father subscribes to invasion of privacy and complete control over his children which allows him to create clones of his own lifestyle and put and end to free thinking under the guise of concern.
This technology would in fact prove to be very usefully in alot of areas for personal protection and alot of others if it were used for that purpose alone . The sad and undeniable truth is that this is not the intended use it was developed for. We all tend to get cought up in the bullshit spun by the elite to further their goals.
This has to be stoped at all costs. There is no half way point with this in todays world.
(03-08-2010, 01:36 AM)Benny2guns Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-07-2010, 05:57 PM)billy Wrote: [ -> ]it tells em when they leave the school premises. it doesn't tell them where they are afterward, only that they are out of range of a transceiver.

and while they're at it i say they should use xrays and screening techniques in schools and colleges. not sure how many guns and knives get carried in but it's too many.

better yet bring back corporal punishment. whip the fuckers who play truant and make the parents do the whipping. if a kid is a persistent truant. tag the bastard. fuck the elite fuck 1984 and fuck

i won't call you names though benny. i won't say you're a gullible moron who listens to every bit of shite on a youtube vid and believes it. i wont do that because that would be attacking you. you on the other hand can tell me i have no brains. but not too often mind cos this isn't the void.
First of all youtube vids are the best way to get info out to people, well not only youtube vids but vids made and supplied from any sourse link really. Funny how people bark up a storm when people use the media ( video technology ) to transfer information in the same manner as the elite that own it and use it. I put up info to read also, I have alot more of it but obviously it's not being read by alot of people.
Now you have offered no proof other than your own ranting opinion that I am wrong. You moved this to SD&D so I would like to see you prove I am wrong and with more than just your opinion.
http://news.cnet.com/2010-1069-980325.html
http://www.spychips.com/alec-big-brother...ticle.html
http://www.spychips.com/
much better Smile
debate and discussion. serious or not requires no proof, only two people discussing. the theories put forward can't be disproved, in the same way god can't. the argument can't be won. i believe in tagging kids who play frequent truancy for the reasons given. i don't need any source other than my experience as one of the frequent truancees .

and also as a parent who wants the assurance that his child stays n school were he's supposed to be. i suppose if i see my childs diary laying around i'm not supposed to read it either. btw benny. what you offer is not proof. that you believe it to be proof is fine with me. i don't happen to agree.
(03-08-2010, 04:49 AM)Benny2guns Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-08-2010, 04:39 AM)velvetfog Wrote: [ -> ]Last summer, the 20 something daughter of a friend of mine, who still lives at home with her parents, traveled throughout South America with a group of her friends. My friend, being a very loving and concerned father, purchased a GPS beacon unit, and got her to put it in the bottom of her handbag before she left. He observed her location on Google maps throughout her trip.
Proving what VF? That her father subscribes to invasion of privacy and complete control over his children which allows him to create clones of his own lifestyle and put and end to free thinking under the guise of concern.
This technology would in fact prove to be very usefully in alot of areas for personal protection and alot of others if it were used for that purpose alone . The sad and undeniable truth is that this is not the intended use it was developed for. We all tend to get cought up in the bullshit spun by the elite to further their goals.
This has to be stoped at all costs. There is no half way point with this in todays world.
it's the very reason it was intended for. to show people where they are and to show other people where you are. that's why it's called global positioning satellite beacon. it shows a position of something or someone globally. many cars have them in case they get stolen. many wealthy kids have them in case they get kidnapped. pets have them in case they get lost. all shipping and police cars have. i can live with kids who play truant a lot having them.

how do we make it so all double posts merge into one outside the void ? sorry about that.

Benny2guns

(03-08-2010, 06:12 AM)billy Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-08-2010, 04:49 AM)Benny2guns Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-08-2010, 04:39 AM)velvetfog Wrote: [ -> ]Last summer, the 20 something daughter of a friend of mine, who still lives at home with her parents, traveled throughout South America with a group of her friends. My friend, being a very loving and concerned father, purchased a GPS beacon unit, and got her to put it in the bottom of her handbag before she left. He observed her location on Google maps throughout her trip.

Proving what VF? That her father subscribes to invasion of privacy and complete control over his children which allows him to create clones of his own lifestyle and put and end to free thinking under the guise of concern.
This technology would in fact prove to be very usefully in alot of areas for personal protection and alot of others if it were used for that purpose alone . The sad and undeniable truth is that this is not the intended use it was developed for. We all tend to get cought up in the bullshit spun by the elite to further their goals.
This has to be stoped at all costs. There is no half way point with this in todays world.

it's the very reason it was intended for. to show people where they are and to show other people where you are. that's why it's called global positioning satellite beacon. it shows a position of something or someone globally. many cars have them in case they get stolen. many wealthy kids have them in case they get kidnapped. pets have them in case they get lost. all shipping and police cars have. i can live with kids who play truant a lot having them.

how do we make it so all double posts merge into one outside the void ? sorry about that.

I Understand your point of view, everyone wants things kept safe. I believe however that in order to accomplish this with this type of technology we will have to give up our freedom Billy and that is something that I'll fight to the bitter end.
We can't have it both ways. Until a time comes when free people run a free world this technology needs a global thumbs down.
(03-08-2010, 06:19 AM)Benny2guns Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-08-2010, 06:12 AM)billy Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-08-2010, 04:49 AM)Benny2guns Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-08-2010, 04:39 AM)velvetfog Wrote: [ -> ]Last summer, the 20 something daughter of a friend of mine, who still lives at home with her parents, traveled throughout South America with a group of her friends. My friend, being a very loving and concerned father, purchased a GPS beacon unit, and got her to put it in the bottom of her handbag before she left. He observed her location on Google maps throughout her trip.
Proving what VF? That her father subscribes to invasion of privacy and complete control over his children which allows him to create clones of his own lifestyle and put and end to free thinking under the guise of concern.
This technology would in fact prove to be very usefully in alot of areas for personal protection and alot of others if it were used for that purpose alone . The sad and undeniable truth is that this is not the intended use it was developed for. We all tend to get cought up in the bullshit spun by the elite to further their goals.
This has to be stoped at all costs. There is no half way point with this in todays world.
it's the very reason it was intended for. to show people where they are and to show other people where you are. that's why it's called global positioning satellite beacon. it shows a position of something or someone globally. many cars have them in case they get stolen. many wealthy kids have them in case they get kidnapped. pets have them in case they get lost. all shipping and police cars have. i can live with kids who play truant a lot having them.

how do we make it so all double posts merge into one outside the void ? sorry about that.
I Understand your point of view, everyone wants things kept safe. I believe however that in order to accomplish this with this type of technology we will have to give up our freedom Billy and that is something that I'll fight to the bitter end.
We can't have it both ways. Until a time comes when free people run a free world this technology needs a global thumbs down.
so lets smash all the computers lets destroy technology?
lets pick and chose what people invent?
lets tell people what they can and can't do or use.

sounds to me like you're one of those people you're telling us not to listen to.

the Luddites had their day. we don't smash the machines up any more.

Benny2guns

(03-08-2010, 06:26 AM)billy Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-08-2010, 06:19 AM)Benny2guns Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-08-2010, 06:12 AM)billy Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-08-2010, 04:49 AM)Benny2guns Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-08-2010, 04:39 AM)velvetfog Wrote: [ -> ]Last summer, the 20 something daughter of a friend of mine, who still lives at home with her parents, traveled throughout South America with a group of her friends. My friend, being a very loving and concerned father, purchased a GPS beacon unit, and got her to put it in the bottom of her handbag before she left. He observed her location on Google maps throughout her trip.

Proving what VF? That her father subscribes to invasion of privacy and complete control over his children which allows him to create clones of his own lifestyle and put and end to free thinking under the guise of concern.
This technology would in fact prove to be very usefully in alot of areas for personal protection and alot of others if it were used for that purpose alone . The sad and undeniable truth is that this is not the intended use it was developed for. We all tend to get cought up in the bullshit spun by the elite to further their goals.
This has to be stoped at all costs. There is no half way point with this in todays world.

it's the very reason it was intended for. to show people where they are and to show other people where you are. that's why it's called global positioning satellite beacon. it shows a position of something or someone globally. many cars have them in case they get stolen. many wealthy kids have them in case they get kidnapped. pets have them in case they get lost. all shipping and police cars have. i can live with kids who play truant a lot having them.

how do we make it so all double posts merge into one outside the void ? sorry about that.

I Understand your point of view, everyone wants things kept safe. I believe however that in order to accomplish this with this type of technology we will have to give up our freedom Billy and that is something that I'll fight to the bitter end.
We can't have it both ways. Until a time comes when free people run a free world this technology needs a global thumbs down.

so lets smash all the computers lets destroy technology?
lets pick and chose what people invent?
lets tell people what they can and can't do or use.

sounds to me like you're one of those people you're telling us not to listen to.

the Luddites had their day. we don't smash the machines up any more.

Hehehehe....no your putting your words in my mouth now Billy, no one is saying smash anything but a corrupt system.
(03-08-2010, 06:38 AM)Benny2guns Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-08-2010, 06:26 AM)billy Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-08-2010, 06:19 AM)Benny2guns Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-08-2010, 06:12 AM)billy Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-08-2010, 04:49 AM)Benny2guns Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-08-2010, 04:39 AM)velvetfog Wrote: [ -> ]Last summer, the 20 something daughter of a friend of mine, who still lives at home with her parents, traveled throughout South America with a group of her friends. My friend, being a very loving and concerned father, purchased a GPS beacon unit, and got her to put it in the bottom of her handbag before she left. He observed her location on Google maps throughout her trip.
Proving what VF? That her father subscribes to invasion of privacy and complete control over his children which allows him to create clones of his own lifestyle and put and end to free thinking under the guise of concern.
This technology would in fact prove to be very usefully in alot of areas for personal protection and alot of others if it were used for that purpose alone . The sad and undeniable truth is that this is not the intended use it was developed for. We all tend to get cought up in the bullshit spun by the elite to further their goals.
This has to be stoped at all costs. There is no half way point with this in todays world.
it's the very reason it was intended for. to show people where they are and to show other people where you are. that's why it's called global positioning satellite beacon. it shows a position of something or someone globally. many cars have them in case they get stolen. many wealthy kids have them in case they get kidnapped. pets have them in case they get lost. all shipping and police cars have. i can live with kids who play truant a lot having them.

how do we make it so all double posts merge into one outside the void ? sorry about that.
I Understand your point of view, everyone wants things kept safe. I believe however that in order to accomplish this with this type of technology we will have to give up our freedom Billy and that is something that I'll fight to the bitter end.
We can't have it both ways. Until a time comes when free people run a free world this technology needs a global thumbs down.
so lets smash all the computers lets destroy technology?
lets pick and chose what people invent?
lets tell people what they can and can't do or use.

sounds to me like you're one of those people you're telling us not to listen to.

the Luddites had their day. we don't smash the machines up any more.
Hehehehe....no your putting your words in my mouth now Billy, no one is saying smash anything but a corrupt system.
am i ? you want to stop tags for kids who play truant. gps for kids on holidays etc. how do you know all the pc's arent tagged so they can be eave dropped on. we know that all mobile phones have chips and also that they can be used to show where they are.are you okay with the phone thing ? because they have the biggest invasion of privacy potential ever. along with the everyday pc. they can check your emails from way back if they want to. they can see every site you go to if they want do and sometimes do. are you okay with those things?

Benny2guns

(03-08-2010, 07:13 AM)billy Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-08-2010, 06:38 AM)Benny2guns Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-08-2010, 06:26 AM)billy Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-08-2010, 06:19 AM)Benny2guns Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-08-2010, 06:12 AM)billy Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-08-2010, 04:49 AM)Benny2guns Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-08-2010, 04:39 AM)velvetfog Wrote: [ -> ]Last summer, the 20 something daughter of a friend of mine, who still lives at home with her parents, traveled throughout South America with a group of her friends. My friend, being a very loving and concerned father, purchased a GPS beacon unit, and got her to put it in the bottom of her handbag before she left. He observed her location on Google maps throughout her trip.

Proving what VF? That her father subscribes to invasion of privacy and complete control over his children which allows him to create clones of his own lifestyle and put and end to free thinking under the guise of concern.
This technology would in fact prove to be very usefully in alot of areas for personal protection and alot of others if it were used for that purpose alone . The sad and undeniable truth is that this is not the intended use it was developed for. We all tend to get cought up in the bullshit spun by the elite to further their goals.
This has to be stoped at all costs. There is no half way point with this in todays world.

it's the very reason it was intended for. to show people where they are and to show other people where you are. that's why it's called global positioning satellite beacon. it shows a position of something or someone globally. many cars have them in case they get stolen. many wealthy kids have them in case they get kidnapped. pets have them in case they get lost. all shipping and police cars have. i can live with kids who play truant a lot having them.

how do we make it so all double posts merge into one outside the void ? sorry about that.

I Understand your point of view, everyone wants things kept safe. I believe however that in order to accomplish this with this type of technology we will have to give up our freedom Billy and that is something that I'll fight to the bitter end.
We can't have it both ways. Until a time comes when free people run a free world this technology needs a global thumbs down.

so lets smash all the computers lets destroy technology?
lets pick and chose what people invent?
lets tell people what they can and can't do or use.

sounds to me like you're one of those people you're telling us not to listen to.

the Luddites had their day. we don't smash the machines up any more.

Hehehehe....no your putting your words in my mouth now Billy, no one is saying smash anything but a corrupt system.

am i ? you want to stop tags for kids who play truant. gps for kids on holidays etc. how do you know all the pc's arent tagged so they can be eave dropped on. we know that all mobile phones have chips and also that they can be used to show where they are.are you okay with the phone thing ? because they have the biggest invasion of privacy potential ever. along with the everyday pc. they can check your emails from way back if they want to. they can see every site you go to if they want do and sometimes do. are you okay with those things?

You seem to be tring to break up this thing and make it ok for some things and maybe not for others.
I think at this time any kind of RFID that is taking place needs to either stop or be circumvented period. Thats a fairly to the point statement.
In the hands of the presant system of rule it will with out a doubt be used as a weapon of control. Thats another one.
This need to track my kids is not one that I support. Thats another one.
It's true that some kids are skipping school and thats another one.
I don't believe that tracking them by RFID is the answer and there I go again in support of freedom.
All things electronic can already be tracked...OMG what did he say?
RFID is a bad idea and thats a fact. I have already supplied the facts and have plenty more to waste. Hell yes I said that too.
Where you live is one of the worst spots in the world for corruption or am I mistaken? Your government is in full support of this type of technology is it not?
(03-08-2010, 07:27 AM)Benny2guns Wrote: [ -> ]You seem to be tring to break up this thing and make it ok for some things and maybe not for others.
I think at this time any kind of RFID that is taking place needs to either stop or be circumvented period. Thats a fairly to the point statement.
In the hands of the presant system of rule it will with out a doubt be used as a weapon of control. Thats another one.
This need to track my kids is not one that I support. Thats another one.
It's true that some kids are skipping school and thats another one.
I don't believe that tracking them by RFID is the answer and there I go again in support of freedom.
All things electronic can already be tracked...OMG what did he say?
RFID is a bad idea and thats a fact. I have already supplied the facts and have plenty more to waste. Hell yes I said that too.
Where you live is one of the worst spots in the world for corruption or am I mistaken? Your government is in full support of this type of technology is it not?
what facts? that rfid exists? who said it doesn't.
maybe tracking those who are blatant truants won't solve the problem but i bet it cuts it down.

Where you live is one of the worst spots in the world for corruption or am I mistaken? Your government is in full support of this type of technology is it not?

the above statement Huh what does it have to do with truancy. here kids sell their bodies so they can go to school. i suppose thats part of the elitist plan as well? many of these kids here would love to have an rfid tag on them in school. they'd actually love anything if it meant them going to school. sadly the rfid isn't in place on kids here as they don't have the same problem. so no benny the gov is not in support. nor are the elite or new world order who back it.

and yes, of course i think somethings are okay and some things aren't okay. i'm a complex person with more than one meme.

not everyone is out to rule the world. some of us may just want to know where our kids are during the day.

johnny has never came to school all week doesn't and shouldn't cut it anymore. we as a society owe it to ourselves and our kids to do everything in our power to make sure they get educated. if shoving an rfid device up their ass for the duration of the school period helps one kid get that education , then i'm all for it. new world order or not.
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