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Benny2guns

Benny2guns

they use it for anything and everything.
most govs have something similar.
i hate what they're allowed to do but they're here and
they won't be got rid of just because we know about them.
i agree with vf,and it's an ongoing thing,next thing put chips in our bodys

Benny2guns

(03-02-2010, 05:58 AM)billy Wrote: [ -> ]they use it for anything and everything.
most govs have something similar.
i hate what they're allowed to do but they're here and
they won't be got rid of just because we know about them.

That is exactly how we free ourselves, tell everyone you know what you know and back it up with facts. On paper, on radio, on tape, on the net, on disc and any other way possible. Most people as I have said before know that something is wrong, they know that politicians are lier's but they can not put the picture together. They can not connect all of the dots so to speak. It's not entirely their fault as they have been brainwashed by the media. For crying out loud...these people that want you and I to believe that chipping our children is for their own protection from predators are the same people that see pregnant women and children as a threat and major cause of global warming. How fucked up is that I ask you and alot of people buy into this shit. Angry
it's all a matter of organisation,big corps can take quick decisions because the top is small,so is government,individual people simply have no answer to that,specially if the political system is such that it doesn't matter anymore who you vote for

Benny2guns

We simply need to get rid of the bastards and make sure we let none of the type near the reigns of power ever again. We need to rid our planet of all central banking schemes and give the power to print money back to the people. We need to strip them of the wealth that they have stolen from us and put the lot of them on trial for high crimes against humanity.
Then hang the bastards.
power corrupts
absolute power corrupts absolutely
who said that?

Benny2guns

(03-02-2010, 01:44 PM)velvetfog Wrote: [ -> ]"Give the power to print money back to the people."
Yea, right. As if that would ever work. Sad

Well in fact history proves it did and does. In the USA before 1913 the Republic of the United States Of America did in fact print their own debt free money. Aside from a stint during the revolution or the civil war...memory fails me, but none the less aside from a small stint it operated at a profit, no deficit.
You are confusing a democratic USA run by the federal reserve bank for the true Republic of the USA run by the peoples government.
The USA was never meant to be a democracy, that is more bullshit and lies from the power elite.
Yes I know your going to question that but If I know you, you will find the link that proves what I say is true before I do VF. I have done my home work but my fileing system sucks. Wink

Benny2guns

(03-02-2010, 01:40 PM)Benny2guns Wrote: [ -> ]We simply need to get rid of the bastards and make sure we let none of the type near the reigns of power ever again. We need to rid our planet of all central banking schemes and give the power to print money back to the people. We need to strip them of the wealth that they have stolen from us and put the lot of them on trial for high crimes against humanity.
Then hang the bastards.
if we can't organize ourselves to free a few whales, how will we ever organize enough to free ourselves from the hierarchy of the so called elite.

@ sj.
it wasn't meHuh

Benny2guns

(03-02-2010, 03:57 PM)billy Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-02-2010, 01:40 PM)Benny2guns Wrote: [ -> ]We simply need to get rid of the bastards and make sure we let none of the type near the reigns of power ever again. We need to rid our planet of all central banking schemes and give the power to print money back to the people. We need to strip them of the wealth that they have stolen from us and put the lot of them on trial for high crimes against humanity.
Then hang the bastards.

if we can't organize ourselves to free a few whales, how will we ever organize enough to free ourselves from the hierarchy of the so called elite.

@ sj.
it wasn't meHuh

From your post you imply you have read all the information and the elite or ( So Called) as you put it do not exsist. That about covers it I think. I put up the information as a way to inform you, thats one way to fight. If you so chose to thumb your knoes at it and give it a pass thats your prerogative. However saving the whales will only come if the profit end of it dissapears. It's a perk of getting rid of the elite, but you may never find out. Please read the information and make an informed post.
(03-02-2010, 04:06 PM)Benny2guns Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-02-2010, 03:57 PM)billy Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-02-2010, 01:40 PM)Benny2guns Wrote: [ -> ]We simply need to get rid of the bastards and make sure we let none of the type near the reigns of power ever again. We need to rid our planet of all central banking schemes and give the power to print money back to the people. We need to strip them of the wealth that they have stolen from us and put the lot of them on trial for high crimes against humanity.
Then hang the bastards.
if we can't organize ourselves to free a few whales, how will we ever organize enough to free ourselves from the hierarchy of the so called elite.

@ sj.
it wasn't meHuh
From your post you imply you have read all the information and the elite or ( So Called) as you put it do not exsist. That about covers it I think. I put up the information as a way to inform you, thats one way to fight. If you so chose to thumb your knoes at it and give it a pass thats your prerogative. However saving the whales will only come if the profit end of it dissapears. It's a perk of getting rid of the elite, but you may never find out. Please read the information and make an informed post.
i know they exist benny. i don't have to read about here. ever thought a well read person like meself hasn't already read enough about it to know they exist.

my point is this. we have to learn how to be good people, with decent views. and sense enough understand how to start winning the things that need winning. yes lets all go after the big cats who can protect themselves. let's play wank the neighbor, because thats all we ever do under these situations. the times of revolution has passed and anytime we come up with a "plan" they (elite) just move the goal posts.
let all the world know the facts. it won't change the facts. they'll just know them.

if people want to make changes, they have to start with the little things that aren't important. from these so called little thing they gain momentum and change bigger things. but no, lets concentrate on telling the people that elite rule everything, lets tell them the facts.

they don't give a fuck benny. they never will. not when you forget the small things that they feel something about. if they can't get the gov to pass a law to set 1 or a few fuckin whales free how are they going to get the elite out.

the thing with the elite is; they're very good at being the elite.
the bad thing about the populace; they aren't the elite.

in the second world war the fear of a german fifth column. worked wonders in scaring people.
now no one has that same power. we have no fifth column. and if we did they'd just close down all the factories for two weeks.

people don't really give a shit about their rights anymore. they just want a roof and three squares.

Benny2guns

And when the roof and 3 squares are gone...what then? For me it doesn't matter I am old but for the young it should. I do not believe for a second that the time for revolution has past. Revolution will in fact come when enough people know the truth. 8 out of 10 don't. They know the usual shit like politics suck and they are criminals. They don't know how bad they have actually been ass fucked and for how long and they certainly don't know the planed outcome for them. It's up to use older wiser butt fucked people to tell them and make them understand. The young only know what they are taught in school. We all know who pays for that and who installs the programming. To sit and cry it's too late is not satisfactory, not satisfactory at all man.Sad
the roof and 3squares will never be gone,since we need them to keep on consuming the crap turned out by the big boys
that's the whole point to lift people out of poverty,so they can consume more

Benny2guns

(03-03-2010, 01:08 PM)srijantje Wrote: [ -> ]the roof and 3squares will never be gone,since we need them to keep on consuming the crap turned out by the big boys
that's the whole point to lift people out of poverty,so they can consume more

With drastic population control in the very near future and at presant that is not the case. Your roof will be reclaimed by mother nature and your 3 squares will not be needed. They allready have all the money, all we have is debt. It's a win win situation for the elite SJ and your on the endangered list. Sad
(03-04-2010, 04:13 AM)Benny2guns Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-03-2010, 01:08 PM)srijantje Wrote: [ -> ]the roof and 3squares will never be gone,since we need them to keep on consuming the crap turned out by the big boys
that's the whole point to lift people out of poverty,so they can consume more
With drastic population control in the very near future and at presant that is not the case. Your roof will be reclaimed by mother nature and your 3 squares will not be needed. They allready have all the money, all we have is debt. It's a win win situation for the elite SJ and your on the endangered list. Sad
if what you say is true then what does it matter. debt means nothing really nor does owning the money when it comes to bartering with goods instead of paying. thats what happens btw when a society breaks down. money as we know loses all it's value. you pay in goods.
you swap things for what you want. the elite are in the same boat. they may last long in a melt down but all in all things will be equal. though we'll still have those who take what they want.

if there really is a melt down it will be the strong who become the elite and not the paper clips.

Benny2guns

(03-04-2010, 06:16 AM)billy Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-04-2010, 04:13 AM)Benny2guns Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-03-2010, 01:08 PM)srijantje Wrote: [ -> ]the roof and 3squares will never be gone,since we need them to keep on consuming the crap turned out by the big boys
that's the whole point to lift people out of poverty,so they can consume more

With drastic population control in the very near future and at presant that is not the case. Your roof will be reclaimed by mother nature and your 3 squares will not be needed. They allready have all the money, all we have is debt. It's a win win situation for the elite SJ and your on the endangered list. Sad

if what you say is true then what does it matter. debt means nothing really nor does owning the money when it comes to bartering with goods instead of paying. thats what happens btw when a society breaks down. money as we know loses all it's value. you pay in goods.
you swap things for what you want. the elite are in the same boat. they may last long in a melt down but all in all things will be equal. though we'll still have those who take what they want.

if there really is a melt down it will be the strong who become the elite and not the paper clips.

Thats not so bill. We have been hornswagled into believing that paper money is real money. In fact it is just paper back up by nothing. The real money is still gold/silver/diamonds and oil along with all other natural resources. The elite own all of it. Hell bill when we purchase land we can not even get the mineral rights anymore they own them also. With the new carbon tax's they will in effect tax the air we breath. What happens when we can't pay?
(03-04-2010, 06:29 AM)Benny2guns Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-04-2010, 06:16 AM)billy Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-04-2010, 04:13 AM)Benny2guns Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-03-2010, 01:08 PM)srijantje Wrote: [ -> ]the roof and 3squares will never be gone,since we need them to keep on consuming the crap turned out by the big boys
that's the whole point to lift people out of poverty,so they can consume more
With drastic population control in the very near future and at presant that is not the case. Your roof will be reclaimed by mother nature and your 3 squares will not be needed. They allready have all the money, all we have is debt. It's a win win situation for the elite SJ and your on the endangered list. Sad
if what you say is true then what does it matter. debt means nothing really nor does owning the money when it comes to bartering with goods instead of paying. thats what happens btw when a society breaks down. money as we know loses all it's value. you pay in goods.
you swap things for what you want. the elite are in the same boat. they may last long in a melt down but all in all things will be equal. though we'll still have those who take what they want.

if there really is a melt down it will be the strong who become the elite and not the paper clips.
Thats not so bill. We have been hornswagled into believing that paper money is real money. In fact it is just paper back up by nothing. The real money is still gold/silver/diamonds and oil along with all other natural resources. The elite own all of it. Hell bill when we purchase land we can not even get the mineral rights anymore they own them also. With the new carbon tax's they will in effect tax the air we breath. What happens when we can't pay?
i think you missed my point. if we go into melt down. gold nor diamonds will be used as currency at first. barter will be used. it's the most basic concept of commerce. after that comes gold or precious metals. the other thing you missed from what i said is this;
the so called elite rich will have to start finding stuff to barter with. it very well may be gold but the gold initially will be going in one direction. to the people. as for land ownership. that too will fall by the wayside.
you can't keep an army etc that you can't feed and clothe.

all that said. i really don't think it will happen world wide. printing money works too well. again and this only an opinion. i don't think people really care about the paper money being printed i think many understand the concept but don't give a shit as long as they get their share.

Benny2guns

(03-04-2010, 08:59 AM)billy Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-04-2010, 06:29 AM)Benny2guns Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-04-2010, 06:16 AM)billy Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-04-2010, 04:13 AM)Benny2guns Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-03-2010, 01:08 PM)srijantje Wrote: [ -> ]the roof and 3squares will never be gone,since we need them to keep on consuming the crap turned out by the big boys
that's the whole point to lift people out of poverty,so they can consume more

With drastic population control in the very near future and at presant that is not the case. Your roof will be reclaimed by mother nature and your 3 squares will not be needed. They allready have all the money, all we have is debt. It's a win win situation for the elite SJ and your on the endangered list. Sad

if what you say is true then what does it matter. debt means nothing really nor does owning the money when it comes to bartering with goods instead of paying. thats what happens btw when a society breaks down. money as we know loses all it's value. you pay in goods.
you swap things for what you want. the elite are in the same boat. they may last long in a melt down but all in all things will be equal. though we'll still have those who take what they want.

if there really is a melt down it will be the strong who become the elite and not the paper clips.

Thats not so bill. We have been hornswagled into believing that paper money is real money. In fact it is just paper back up by nothing. The real money is still gold/silver/diamonds and oil along with all other natural resources. The elite own all of it. Hell bill when we purchase land we can not even get the mineral rights anymore they own them also. With the new carbon tax's they will in effect tax the air we breath. What happens when we can't pay?

i think you missed my point. if we go into melt down. gold nor diamonds will be used as currency at first. barter will be used. it's the most basic concept of commerce. after that comes gold or precious metals. the other thing you missed from what i said is this;
the so called elite rich will have to start finding stuff to barter with. it very well may be gold but the gold initially will be going in one direction. to the people. as for land ownership. that too will fall by the wayside.
you can't keep an army etc that you can't feed and clothe.

all that said. i really don't think it will happen world wide. printing money works too well. again and this only an opinion. i don't think people really care about the paper money being printed i think many understand the concept but don't give a shit as long as they get their share.

I never missed or misunderstood you bill but I see I need to be a little more clear.
They own everything including seed and land. Most seed will only produce one crop. It has been engineered that way bill by the elite that own the corps that supply it. It has also been patented. They own the rights to the food supply so they will have no problem feeding a standing army or police force. Wealth is never lost and what is of value now will not stop being so. Gold platinum silver and precious stones all have a military weapons use as does oil.